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Geeze. I am just heartbroken that my little computer can’t pull in your show tonight, with Kievsky talking about GARDENING. I want to hear this so bad, because I live to grow things, and grow things to live. Shit.

Kievsky mentions:

Rodale Press
book: “Stocking Up”
container gardening.com

– nut-driver set to liberate dryer drums from junkyard, grow fingerling potatoes in

http://www.cooksgarden.com/
http://www.johnnyseeds.com/
http://rareseeds.com/
http://orchardvalleysupply.com/

I looked at http://www.rodale.com and http://www.rodalepress.com and if that’s the same company, it’s become disgustingly yuppified. the Rodale I thought I knew would never sell crap like “The South Beach Diet.” It’s like seeing the organic farmer that taught you everything convert to judaism or something.

Just go to http://www.amazon.com and find “Stocking Up.”

They say that To live *off* a garden, you have to live *in* it.

While Maguire and his 300 pound wife are out shoveling manure, Sahidajan Sanjamomirjajmpuijian {fresh off the boat from Bangalore) uses an equivalent amount of time/money/energy to get a graduate degree, Then, using capital from an Indian mutual aid society, starts a company and in three years is making $250,000/yr. Two more years and his company is making enough money that his regional pro-Indian PAC just bought the local Congressman who not only shifts hundreds of $millions of tax burden off the local Indian community but also votes that each and every little White girl must sit next to a nice Negro boy and the age of consent is lowered to 9.

Maguire’s net ROI from his garden over the same period is -$1700.

Missouri is not a high-mountain state. So what is it with you cargo-cult Nazis and oxygen deprivation?

Damn! I’m so sorry I missed the bunny slayers show on “White Power Gardening”. This subject has such mainstream appeal. It certainly is not the topic of discussion of a few societal marginalized losers and lunatics.
“White Power Gardening”: it’s all there in the title. This show is going to have legs, oh yeah!

Thanks Alex and Stan for making this show a reality.

Hey Sutter,

Don’t worry, it will be out on .mp3 soon enough so you can enjoy the full two hours! Good comments, by the way. You always make me think. Here is my reply to you:

As far as being marginalized losers, ask yourself, “Who is inside the margins? Would you consider them winners?” Are famous actors and actresses non-marginalized winners? Was Anna Nicole Smith a winner? Coked up basketball players? Politicians turning tricks? CEO’s wrecking the world to fund a lavish lifestyle? I don’t envy any of them, and you shouldn’t either. They are deep in the poison of the AmeriKwan anti-world, and are heavily invested in it. I may be a marginal person, but I chose to be here on the margins. I’ve observed some of this country’s “insiders” up close, and I realized that it’s not a happy or fulfilling life, and it’s often tragic. By contrast, I have a circle of about a half a dozen loyal comrades whom I met through the WN’ist movement. I wouldn’t trade them for anything that the Kwa insiders could offer me.

I’ve beeng working on figuring out what is wrong with life in America, and I discovered that these ugly things about our lives were imposed with malicious intent, such as the automobile system, agribusiness, mass entertainment culture, etc. But we support these bad things by going along with it all and failing to resist and failing to try to do things a different way.

It isn’t enough for us to oppose these things individually. We (we being any of us doing organizing in our respective local areas) have to set an example as a functioning community and functioning local economy. From there, I think it’s possible that many more will want to emulate what we are doing, and it could spread. Success will be measured by having a measurable impact on the economy and perceptible impact on the culture. Perhaps I am delusional, but hey, what else better do I have to do?

I think the secret to understanding Americans is that they are the loneliest people in the planet, especially here in New England. Remember the TV show “Cheers,” where the theme song was “you want to go where everybody knows your name.”

I think the first thing we White Kwans need to do is realize how pathetic and hollowed out is the culture in which we grew up. When one can admit that to himself, he can figure out where to go from there.

White Dragonslayer,

Not all of us can be computer entrepreneurs. I can’t stand to sit still for that long, myself. Been there, done that, and hated it. I need to be on my feet doing three dimensional things.

A lot of those Indians and Paks just own simple convenience stores, and getting businesses like these in the hands of WN is definitely a goal of ours. We will definitely set up something along the lines of “Islamic banking” where the lender owns part of the business until he’s paid back. (as opposed to jewish usury banking).

Money is important, but it’s not the only thing. We are getting more and more people to work with us, and the beginning of a local community and local economy is in the works. The fact that our little social network requires a willingness to do manual labor kind of automated our selection process for taking new people in. Those who are willing to work get a lot of help in setting up their own gardens at their own houses, and so in one fell swoop we get good people, and we retain their interest and participation.

“The most influential person on agricultural systems turned out to be the most unlikely individual imaginable ne without any agricultural training or experience. J.I. Rodale (1898-1971), born in the lower east side of New York City as Jerome Irving Cohen, was known to friends and associates as J.I.

No kidding! Fooled again by the name-changers!

Well, the jews certainly have a nose for trends.

City slickers like Mr Sutter will never understand the joys of working the soil. You gotta be a born and raised redneck like me.

Whereas I, as a barefooted Carolina country boy plowed a mule sun up til sun down, Mr Sutter slept til noon then played marbles til dark at a vacant lot in “Hobokin”.

Little in life compares to hot hen shit in between the toes, a rooster crowing at sunrise, and mules farting up wind.

“In the merry month of May, when the Jacks begin to bray,
And the jennies come a fartin round the barn.

I met a lil miss, and I simply asked her this:
If I could wind up her little ball of yarn.

To the bushes we went, without the girl’s consent,
Not thinking I’d done a bit of harm.

I layed her on the ground, and I wrinkled up her gown,
And I wound up her little ball of yarn.

About 9 months after that, in the pool room where I sat,
No thinking I’d done a bit of harm,
A policeman dressed in blue said “I wanna see you”,
You’re the daddy of that little ball of yarn.

In the jail house where I sit, with my britches full of shit,
And the roaches playing ping pong with my balls,
The ladies passing by, throwing hair pins at my ass,
Cause I’m the daddy of that little ball of yarn.

ARyan

ARrable land

ARt

AgRiculture

“because agribusiness was choosing our diet for us.”

And how do they do that?

Speaking of greens, has anyone here ever grown or at least heard of Upland Cress. It’s not a real cress, it is an unbelievably tougn ‘n’ hardy dark leafy green also known in the southern states as Creasy Greens. I’ve grown this only once and loved it. Even in cold climates, it just keeps on going till December!

Hey, Glenn, since you seem to be in the mood for outdoorsy music and poetry, here is a wee song that an older woman sang to me when I was a teenager. Oh, heck, you probably know this already, but maybe the youngsters here are not familiar with it.

In the shade of the old apple tree
I met a fair Cee – You – En – Tee
She asked me to stay
For an Eff – You – Cee – Kay
Which sounded like music to me!

Months and years have gone by
And my pr*ck has a tear in its eye
Cause I’m eating green grass
For that swell piece of ass
In the shade of the old apple tree.

Hey Stonza, that’s a good un. Earthy like I like um, though I’d never heard that one before.

Yeah, us boys sang lots of earthy songs like those, growing up in the 40s and 50s. Not in front of gals though. A knock up side our heads would surely follow, if we did. Solely for male entertainment while we worked long, sweaty days in the fields. Growing up, I had 15 aunts and uncles, and 54 1st cousins, just about all of whom worked on farms.

My Miller grandfather (who had 11 children), huge 300 pound, red-headed fellow, used to wake up every morning 1/2 hour before sun rise and stare at the ceiling for 1/2 hour. Then when he got up, he had a job picked out for all 11 that would last all day. A super great organizer, according to my father. Young’uns were highly profitably back in those days. All farmers wanted lots of them.

“Son, marry a big, strong, healthy woman. You’ll get more work out of her than from a skinny, weak one. And she’ll give you lots of big, strong, healthy young’uns”, is what my grandfather used to say. And quite seriously, too.

Actually, I followed his advice and had 5.

How many young’uns have you made to help work your garden, Mr Sutter ??

I find this interesting that Miller jumped in to defend this show when he has expressed disdain for Kievky and his “psychobabble” in the past. I suppose it’s a case of circling the wagons. We can’t afford someone pointing out how absurd we are. This is after all about a cyber circle jerk society that loves to slap itself on the back, a bizarre sub-culture.

Gardening has nothing to do with building a revolution or freeing Whites from Jewish tyranny, nor will it ever. One of the chaps on “The Daily Reckoning” wrote about visiting some short, squat brown Indians in the mountains of Peru. They have an economy based on farming and barter and live very primitively and independent of modern systems. They sell some of the beads and trinkets they produce and save the money for technological things they might need. The point is this emulation of our racial inferiors is what Kievsky advocates, as has been pointed out to him in the past by Whitefist. We are not going to build a revolution, nor are we going to insulate ourselves from ZOG by imitating Indians with 70 IQ’s. These Indians do not have a government hostile to them and even if THEY were hostile to the government they pose absolutely no threat, as weak militarily as the Peruvian government might be. This revolution through fresh produce is a childish and irrelevant daydream.

If Kievsky really hates the automobile system, and petrochemical agri-business, and slaving away for ZOG-bucks and so forth, I suggest he sell his vehicles and take what money he can pool together and join the Amish in Pennsylvania. They actually do all the things he advocates doing. They live off of the grid. They don’t drive cars. They are not dependent on the system. They raise their crops naturally. They raise large White families. They have a real sense of community. There are two large communities one in Lancaster county and the other north in the Susquehanna Valley. Even if you did not have enough to buy your own farm amongst them, I am sure one of the larger, wealthier farms could put you on as a farm hand and give you living quarters until you save enough money to stake off a few acres of you own. So you have to go to church on Sunday, is that such a high price to pay to live the life you absolutely crave to live?

The truth of the matter Kievsky is not a farmer and does not want to be farmer. He loves automobiles and the system as much as the rest of society. He does not want to get up at 5 am and get behind a mule and plow the fields to sundown. He loves getting into his car and driving to the local suburban supermarket to buy a bottle of wine or a coffee cake for his Yankee Jim visits. So please stop boring well adjusted people with these delusion daydreams about “hate farming” and “White Power Gardening”.

Also, ZOG as corrupt and inefficient as it is could wipe the Amish off of the earth in a few days with no resistance. So where is the “Vegetable Revolution”? This is why there is no movement. Mental defectives are given venues to allow their self delusional daydreams to fester.

I’m glad to see you taking the high road Mr. Miller. We certainly don’t want this dialogue to degenerate into a “Muh Dick” conversation. VNN and you, and the rest of the Looney Toons are not at all interested in fighting the Jew or awakening White minds. If you were you would not be giving Kievsky venues for his ignorant, stupid fantasies. The Bunny Slayer advocates this “Vegetable Revolution” through dropping out of the system by growing your own food and supposedly building a “local economy” based on barter just as the 70 IQ Indians I mentioned. In this “Vegetable Revolution” ZOG will be collapsed due to the fact that all whites will not be working for ZOG bucks, and ZOG’s tax base will continually shrink thereby collapsing the government and the system by non-participation in the system.

This fantasy of Kievsky is just a fevered daydream of an unstable mind. He advocates Whites abandon reality as he has I suppose, because his own reality is just too painful for him to honestly confront.

If VNN is really trying to reach Whites they would not be airing shows about “White Power Gardening”. The very people you are trying to reach will see this for what it is: absolutely absurd.

There is nothing wrong with gardening or being a farmer. It is not however the basis of revolution nor will be advocating Whites return to an 18th century lifestyle collapse ZOG, nor will it have any appeal to the very Whites you say you are trying to help.

Oh and Yankee Jim, I stand corrected, and I apologize for not properly giving you credit for the term “White Power Gardening”. I’m sorry I stole your thunder. You have full ownership of “White Power Gardening”.

Whitefist says,

“Quite the contrary, agribusiness, or rather the concept of fewer farmers producing more food is in fact an economic efficiency that has made possible American industrial development and the advent of a high technology sector/society.”

True. But in all development there is a point of diminishing returns, and agribusiness in USA and Cda has long since passed that point. Maybe it is not a simple case of choosing between Kievsky’s neo-Luddism and the sick state of agribusiness today.

Can an entire population happily exist in an ever-upward-spiralling high tech society? (We ARE supposed to be happy, aren’t we, on this earth, instead of waiting to be happy in Heaven.) How long can such a knowledge-based society go on? I’d say it’s imploding as we speak, which is why Kievsky’s neo-Luddism, while not some ultimate solution, doesn’t sound quite as stupid as you suggest.

In any case, it has been noted that a great reduction in people working the land (be it scratching the ground with a stick or something a little more efficient) is a sure sign of a civilization in decline. So, more folks than ever before in human history are members of the “creative class”, swanning & schmoozing about in the knowledge-based, high tech society/ economy and hardly anyone is left to do the real work of life. And I call it “real” work because, after all is said & done, we are still biological entities and the farther we get from knowing our place in the natural order, the closer we get to becoming androids twiddling our thumbs hunting endlessly for “meaning”. Which is where I would say 90% of the population is, at present. And I would ask, what, in the natural progression of things, comes AFTER #3 (the knowlege-based society)?

Here’s a big word: enantiodromia. It means that eventually everything turns into its opposite. It looks like we are not too far from that happening.

Stronza says: “In any case, it has been noted that a great reduction in people working the land (be it scratching the ground with a stick or something a little more efficient) is a sure sign of a civilization in decline. So, more folks than ever before in human history are members of the “creative class”, swanning & schmoozing about in the knowledge-based, high tech society/ economy and hardly anyone is left to do the real work of life. And I call it “real” work because, after all is said & done, we are still biological entities and the farther we get from knowing our place in the natural order, the closer we get to becoming androids twiddling our thumbs hunting endlessly for “meaning”. Which is where I would say 90% of the population is, at present. And I would ask, what, in the natural progression of things, comes AFTER #3 (the knowlege-based society)?”

How so is greater agricultural efficiency, i.e. less human input producing more and more a sure sign of a civilization in decline??? A curious statement thatz…

Two things, first off, where do you see the boundary of a knowledge society, when in fact that stage of social evolution is barely in its infancy. Are you making the case that we have learned all there is to learn, that Whitekind are the masters of the universe??? The Knowledge society has a heck of long way to go.

Secondly, just because human activity centers on broadening the knowledge frontiers doesn’t mean that either agricultural production or industrial production have been completely abandoned, it means those sectors evolve. Again, in the Kwa this natural evolution has been perverted by the jew, and what has occurred here is something akin to what Kievsky advocates, a giant step backward, whereby jews have created a third world country and economy out of a once vibrant White society that was well on its way to making the stage 3, knowledge based society transition.

Lastly, the final missing ingredient in social evolution is Eugenics. That isn’t to imply that we need fewer people, but what we need is a better quality White human, and this too has been halted and in fact reversed by the jew. So, while a certain type of human is fine for an agrarian society and even an industrial one, as the social organism evolves it requires better stock for a knowledge based society, and that has been denied to Whites. This btw is a reality not lost on the Chinese, the 21st century equivalent of the German National Socialists imo.

Kievsky’s neo-Ludditism is in perfect synchrony with the jewish social engineering, an embrace of the primitive for primitive minds.