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VONBLU: victoer?
VONBLU
: Mr. Wolzek, are you there sir?
vwolzek
: dudes, this shit keeps crashing my machine. i'm gonna try this but it may not work for long. you guys ready?
PriestOfRAHOWA: We need sound
VONBLU
: ok
PriestOfRAHOWA
: Ready
VONBLU
: ready, freddy
vwolzek
: Ok, first the basics -- one at a time, please -- WHO ARE VON AND DOC? Specifically, how did each of you begin to look at politics and racialism, and how and when did you run into each other?
VONBLU: Doc, you go first
PriestOfRAHOWA
: I met Von last 4th of July weekend
PriestOfRAHOWA
: He wasn't sure what to say or how much to let on about his politics for awhile
PriestOfRAHOWA
: Then, one day he asked me to be a guest on the show. The rest is history
VONBLU
: I met the Doc and slowly we discussed political matters and I pretty much force fed him about the Jew
VONBLU
: That put him off
VONBLU
: But I still thought he would be a great asset to the show
VONBLU
: We met in July...not exactly sure of the exact date
PriestOfRAHOWA
: This is true. I didn't believe untill I tried to "proove: gas chambers existed
VONBLU
: Doc isn't the sort of person that would "just take my word for it"
VONBLU
: The show has been educational for both of us.
vwolzek
: ok. slow down for a second guys. most listeners know this bit of it....
PriestOfRAHOWA: I spent weeks trying to find pictures. As you know, no luck. That opened my eyes
PriestOfRAHOWA
: What do you want?
VONBLU
: Narrow you're question, Vic, what is it exactly?
vwolzek
: take a second and tell *how* you met. in a bar? hanging out in the lobby of your apt building? in a college class together? give us a sense of the social context you guys live in, how you met each other, how people socialize. [end]
VONBLU: I first met the DOC on the steps of our apartment building.
PriestOfRAHOWA
: Sitting out on the front porch at the apartment building.
PriestOfRAHOWA
: We were watching the groids and found we thought alike on that issue
VONBLU
: Yup, I remember that like it was yesterday...Doc seemed like an intelligent fellow...but I am not a very trusting person
PriestOfRAHOWA
: THAT is an understatement!
VONBLU
: Well, we talked on historical matters
PriestOfRAHOWA
: Not that I am either
VONBLU
: But what solidified or was a bond was our hatred for these niggers in this area
PriestOfRAHOWA
: We both like WWII history.
VONBLU
: The talks initially was small and measured
VONBLU
: than they grew longer
PriestOfRAHOWA
: I will tell you this. Von will do what he tells you he will do. He is stand up all the way
VONBLU
: Doc is a very caring man...he even cares about the little nigs in the area...are use to. lol
PriestOfRAHOWA
: Now getting him to do something you want is not easy, but if he agrees it will be done
VONBLU
: I on the other hand have grown very jaded over the years...
PriestOfRAHOWA
: Yeah, I really AM a Priest. I care about people in general. I still, almost, believe that you can make the world better by kindness
VONBLU
: I don't commit to things unless I KNOW they can be done...I am not interested in "wasted motion"
VONBLU
: I am interested in results
PriestOfRAHOWA
: And I think that working toward something will pay off in the end
VONBLU
: I am a straight shooter
VONBLU
: the time is short for our race and the so-called movement or whatever you want to call it has to start producing results
PriestOfRAHOWA
: I got on the show at first because of the "free speach" format
VONBLU
: ok, next question, vic?
vwolzek
: **instruction interruption** -- if thoughts are continuing use ellipses [...] if ended write "end." i'll do same...
vwolzek: this is a strange format....
PriestOfRAHOWA: Started reading the "News the jews refuse to use" and saw disturbing trends
VONBLU
: lol
vwolzek
: not exactly like conversation, so i'm going to be more general...
VONBLU: one point questions will probably give you the results you need, Vic.
VONBLU
: You can also print this chat session out.
VONBLU
: The long and the short of the Vonbluvens Show as it is today now is...
VONBLU
: it's two crazy and very fucking angry white guys sounding off.
PriestOfRAHOWA
: That about sums it up
VONBLU
: We are not the be all or end all but a cog in the machinery of the new white media...
PriestOfRAHOWA
: We attemp to work toward the Blue Collar groups.
VONBLU
: a media I hope that doesn't make the same mistakes the conservative movement made...but they never totally had control of the media, did they?
vwolzek
: and address broad topics about which you guys can spew. if itz ok with you, i'll contact each of you after this to get bio details and other personality stuff that would be difficult and tedious to get in a group, ok?
VONBLU: That is fine.
PriestOfRAHOWA
: My eyes were opened when I did independant studies on the jew controll of the media and hollywood
vwolzek
: You mention "getting results." What results are the men behind the VB Show looking to achieve?
PriestOfRAHOWA: I never lot at studies from one point of view
VONBLU
: TO FUCKING WAKE PEOPLE UP...
VONBLU
: TO GET THEM FUCKING ANGRY
VONBLU
: TO FUCKING "DO SOMETHING" AND GET OFF THEIR ASSES
PriestOfRAHOWA
: I'm an anarchist at heart Victor. More Government = Less Freedom
VONBLU
: "TO VENT THE ANGER OF THOSE THAT CAN'T FUCKING VENT THEIR ANGER"
vwolzek
: Toward what end? If the social order were up to you tomorrow, what would you do/implement?
VONBLU: DOC, why don't you answer that...I am sure my answer may be different
PriestOfRAHOWA
: A white America
VONBLU
: I will go after you
PriestOfRAHOWA
: I want as little government as possible
VONBLU
: THE FORM OF GOVERNMENT IS IRRELEVANT TO ME...
VONBLU
: AS LONG AS WHITES ARE IN CONTROL OF IT
VONBLU
: AND THE JEWS HAVE NO PART IN IT
VONBLU
: WE WILL BE ON THE RIGHT TRACK
PriestOfRAHOWA
: The way I see what we have today is that as Government has become more and more restrictive, it functions against people in general
VONBLU
: Since 1965 the fucking Jew has used the instrument of governement...
VONBLU
: to oppress white people
PriestOfRAHOWA
: Get rid of the Republic With computers we can all vote direct on ANY issue
VONBLU
: Vic, your last piece was an eye opener for me...
VONBLU
: not only the immigration act ...
PriestOfRAHOWA
: Either true Democracy, for whites only, or balkanize the country so you can find a place you fit in
VONBLU
: but in 1965 open season was declared on white men condemned to the prisons
VONBLU
: It's all by fucking design...
VONBLU
: 1965 is the pivotal year...
VONBLU
: but the Jew worked tirelesly in the decades before 1965 to implement this tyrannical government
vwolzek
: shew! this is hard. slow down a sec guys. a lot of info to cover here. FIRST: so what happens to all the non-whites?
VONBLU: The Jews have had a solid lock on our form of government since the FDR administration
VONBLU
: Whatever is workable
VONBLU
: Path of least resistance if you will...
VONBLU
: Since I am such a kind-hearted man.
VONBLU
: I say repatriation...
PriestOfRAHOWA
: Ship them out or set up multi state areas for their "homeland"
VONBLU
: short of that...
VONBLU
: fucking extermination
VONBLU
: A partitioning of the country may be a solution as well
PriestOfRAHOWA
: I lean more towards the Orkin man myself
VONBLU
: As I said...
VONBLU
: whatever is the most convenient
VONBLU
: The other races may be in favor of some of the ideas...
VONBLU
: All I know is nothing can be worked out as long as the Jew has a stranglehold on this nation.
PriestOfRAHOWA
: As long as we are apart
VONBLU
: The first prong of the attack against the Jew has to be in the area of propaganda
VONBLU
: We must counter his agitprop
VONBLU
: I am pleased with the inroads that VNN has made and others...
PriestOfRAHOWA
: The jew has his homeland, but will he go there? No, vampires and viruses need a host
VONBLU
: Well, you ask what should happen to non-whites...
VONBLU
: my answer is that they fucking leave (especially the fucking Jew)
VONBLU
: vertically or horizontally...
VONBLU
: I don't give a damn
VONBLU
: They don't consider us...
VONBLU
: Why should I consider them?
VONBLU
: next question
vwolzek
: Vertically or horizontally - no doubt a reference to lkinder's latest in which e writes:...
VONBLU: Yup
vwolzek
: All prior world expulsions of the jew have been horizontal. I believe that, given the unprecedented horrors this race has subjected the world to, the expulsion this time must be ...
vwolzek: vertical. To put us out of our misery, the jewish race must be put to sleep. Perhaps some believe that too radical; I believe it is warranted by jews' actions and indicated by jews' history.
vwolzek: You both agree with this?
VONBLU: I don't disagree with that, Victor
PriestOfRAHOWA
: Nothing would grow there for thousands of years
VONBLU
: It's time to collect on all those Holocaust reparations the nations have been forced to pay out.
PriestOfRAHOWA
: True!
PriestOfRAHOWA
: The Holohoax
VONBLU
: I am in total agreement with that, Mr. Wolzek.
VONBLU
: 4 years ago I would not have said that.
VONBLU
: In looking at the Jewish problem rationally you can only come to the conclusion that you and others have...
PriestOfRAHOWA
: The allies liberated 60,000. 20,000 died in the following few weeks, but 139,000 "suvivors" claimed money back then. There are more "survivors" alive today than there were jews in Europe
VONBLU
: they must go
vwolzek
: What about the larded negress I banged when I was 14? She was lovely, if larded, must she go, too?
VONBLU: I am not going to argue over numbers...
PriestOfRAHOWA
: You incinerate viruses and drive a stake through a vampires heart before you burn the remains. You figure it out
VONBLU
: I see the results of what the fucking Jews have rought.
PriestOfRAHOWA
: Blacks must go
PriestOfRAHOWA
: One way or another
VONBLU
: Back to Africa with them, or to whatever section of the United States...or fucking death
vwolzek
: I agree. Ready for different direction of questions?
PriestOfRAHOWA: Whites and blackes can not live side by side. The proof is all around us
VONBLU
: I just want them out of my site.
VONBLU
: sight
VONBLU
: sorry
VONBLU
: yes, shoot.
vwolzek
: You two guys...
vwolzek: have become notorious...
PriestOfRAHOWA: So?
VONBLU
: Let him finish.
vwolzek
: as the arch nemeses of a certain broadcaster hailing from New Jersey...
vwolzek: Oh, what's his name?...
VONBLU: lol!!!!!!
VONBLU
: Well, there is a reason for that.
PriestOfRAHOWA
: The "other" show?
vwolzek
: Proceed!
PriestOfRAHOWA: He lies to his listiners all the time
VONBLU
: And, Frankly, I don't know why VNN has been silent on the matter.
VONBLU
: kkk
VONBLU
: sorry
PriestOfRAHOWA
: He doesn't verify his "news"
VONBLU
: You go first DOC
PriestOfRAHOWA
: Dennis Bosack, Rusian Troops you name it
VONBLU
: Go into a little more depth, DOC.
vwolzek
: Yes, please, fellas, give each other room, and speak your piece.
PriestOfRAHOWA: He may not BE a jew, but he ACTS the jew
VONBLU
: brb
vwolzek
: go ahead doc
PriestOfRAHOWA: Why should a white man not be held accountable?
VONBLU
: back
vwolzek
: accountable for what exactly?
PriestOfRAHOWA: We, as a race, need to be true to our race
VONBLU
: Frankly, his P.T. Barnum type actions is what has really turned me on him...
PriestOfRAHOWA
: I don't care if he makes a living off his show. Just vess up and be honest about it
vwolzek
: i agree completely, doc. elaborate, von.
VONBLU: Well, first...
VONBLU
: I will get to the issue of money in a minute...
VONBLU
: but first...
VONBLU
: 1. Dennis Bossack
VONBLU
: He was an absolute crackpot, and Hal didn't give two hoots in Hell to even do a Google search on him...
VONBLU
: I called him on it, and Hal, instead of thanking me from pulling his integrity out of the fire...
PriestOfRAHOWA
: It took me ten minutes and in another thirty we had an exposure show out on Hal
VONBLU
: pressures the webserver owner to pull the site.
VONBLU
: I have a heart to heart discussion with Hal...
VONBLU
: and I said I wouldn't be so critical with the previso...
VONBLU
: that he didn't step in it like this...
VONBLU
: but he KEPT STEPPING IN IT...
VONBLU
: This to me gave me the indication he didn't care about his listeners (who are the very same people who listen to us).
VONBLU
: 2
VONBLU
: That Nigger with the AIDS...
VONBLU
: He allowed this fucking AIDS infected nigger to bash and essentially walk all over his listeners and callers...
VONBLU
: I actually got so fucking mad...
VONBLU
: I called his show...
VONBLU
: Again, total disregard for his WHITE listeners...
VONBLU
: Is this the NEW MEDIA I was mentioning...
VONBLU
: God forbid.
VONBLU
: The examples are numerous...
VONBLU
: The Planet X piece of shit he called a story...
VONBLU
: I let that one slide.
VONBLU
: How is this a service to WHITE people?
PriestOfRAHOWA
: It pays Hal's mortgage......
VONBLU
: It's almost as if he gets his stories while he goes grocery shopping or something
VONBLU
: Now, let's go onto the money factor...
VONBLU
: Take it away, DOC
VONBLU
: His bills goes from 1500 dollars a month to a whopping 7000
VONBLU
: fucking explain that?
VONBLU
: Why hasn't ANYONE other than the VONBLUVENS SHOW said a goddamn thing about him bilking white people?
PriestOfRAHOWA
: The Nation Enquirer type trash he spews isn't helpful. It simply makes all racially aware people look like kooks at best and voilent crazies at worst
VONBLU
: I look at it as a major diversion of capital from the struggle.
VONBLU
: This latest Barnum act just takes the fucking cake...
VONBLU
: I HAD TO DO SOMETHING...
VONBLU
: First he says he is sick...
VONBLU
: Then he has collapsed and is in the hospital...
VONBLU
: then his news alerts says he has 24 hours to live...
VONBLU
: NOW, LIKE SOME FUCKING MIRACLE...
PriestOfRAHOWA
: OyVey, it is DYING that I am! Send CASH!
VONBLU
: He has come out of his coffin like some damnable Jew to do his show Monday and to suck the lifeblood out of his listeners credit cards.
VONBLU
: That is the definition of Dr. Pierce's HUTZPAH!!!!
PriestOfRAHOWA
: "I'm yanking the boards untill I get $3,500.
VONBLU
: AND THAT IS WHY I CALL HIM A FUCKING JEW
PriestOfRAHOWA
: No show unless I get some money quick
vwolzek
: ok...fellas...
VONBLU: AND THAT IS WHY I WILL CONTINUE TO ATTACK HIM UNTIL HE EITHER GETS OFF THE FUCKIGN AIR OR STOPS RAPING OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS OF THEIR MONEY
vwolzek
: ..ready?
VONBLU: Yes
PriestOfRAHOWA
: Victor, we have a listener send us a soundtrack of Hal telling his wifw that "this is how I make my living"
PriestOfRAHOWA
: go ahead
VONBLU
: last show in fact
VONBLU
: Ok, next question
vwolzek
: --hang on, doc. gonn aget to that in a sec. first..
vwolzek: ---HEY _ fcucking slow down!
vwolzek: sheww....
vwolzek: ready?
VONBLU: yes
PriestOfRAHOWA
: shot
PriestOfRAHOWA
: shoot
vwolzek
: OK....
vwolzek: Listeners to your show...
vwolzek: including me...
vwolzek: are familiar with your beefs against him...
VONBLU: Yes
vwolzek
: to put it in context, allow me to sketch three VB Shows that were veritable body slams of HT...
VONBLU: ok
PriestOfRAHOWA
: Only three? We are slipping Von...
vwolzek
: 1. The Bossack expose which, if I remember correctly -- and I usually do -- appeared the very same evening as Hal's interview with that guy!
vwolzek: ...
PriestOfRAHOWA: It did
VONBLU
: That's correct
vwolzek
: 2. The "I'll get the money right away" episode...
vwolzek: OHH, you guys are vicious!!!!!
vwolzek: ...
VONBLU: Vicious?
VONBLU
: TRUTH HURTS
PriestOfRAHOWA
: Mess with the best and die like the rest...
PriestOfRAHOWA
: The jews don't like the truth either
VONBLU
: I couldn't help but use that clip...
vwolzek
: and last but certainly not least, your latest show divulges a hal turner who apparently thinks his mic is off...
VONBLU: It encapsulated everything that Turner is about.
PriestOfRAHOWA
: And what is your point?
VONBLU
: Same as aformentioned.
vwolzek
: but it isn't. and what do we hear? please briefly describe fellas AND THEN LET ME CONTINUE!
VONBLU: I think it speaks for itself.
VONBLU
: Out of his own mouth.
VONBLU
: Ok, please, continue.
vwolzek
: Well, folks reading this aren't hearing it, hence the request for description.
vwolzek: What was heard?
VONBLU: The last clip?
VONBLU
: He goes to a commercial...
VONBLU
: There is a technical problem...
VONBLU
: He cusses...
VONBLU
: The show comes back on...
PriestOfRAHOWA
: He is yelling at his wife in the background while a conercial airs. He tells her to shut the fuck up and that this is the way I make my living
VONBLU
: You can hear Turner escourating his wife
VONBLU
: some inaudibles...
VONBLU
: But one thing comes out loud and clear...
VONBLU
: "I could have a regular job like NORMAL people"-Turner
VONBLU
: "This is my Job...This is how I make my living!"-Turner
VONBLU
: Essentially, that is what it was and is.
vwolzek
: Ok. And why exactly is that a problem?
PriestOfRAHOWA: If Hal whould just tell the truth we'd back off of him.
VONBLU
: It illustrates how mean he can truly be...
VONBLU
: And how he treats and approaches his show and his attitude towards his listeners...
VONBLU
: namely: they are a source of his sustinence...
VONBLU
: so, his bills aren't in the normal flow of just paying the expenses for the show...
VONBLU
: but to pay his PERSONAL bills..
VONBLU
: with this I have a problem
vwolzek
: So, Hal denies that his show is his "real" job? -- remember not everyone reading this understands the context -- of his statements or your critique. Has Hal said he works another job to pay his bills?
PriestOfRAHOWA: His mortgage is NOT a cost of doing his show. If people want to help Hal pay his bills, great! But, don't lie to a listener about it. To many poor people send money to keep Hal, "on the air", not to fund his lifestyle
VONBLU
: Hal hasn't made the distinction between his expenses of the show...
VONBLU
: and his living expenses...
VONBLU
: When he asks for funds...
PriestOfRAHOWA
: Can we say "Fraud" I knew you could
VONBLU
: obstensibly, they are for the maintaining and functioning of the program...and I think most of his listeners would agree with my assessment.
PriestOfRAHOWA
: Criminal and Civil FRAUD
VONBLU
: Doc, eleborate a minute...I need a breather.
VONBLU
: It's a fair question, Vic, and I am trying to answer it the best I can...
VONBLU
: The problem is...
VONBLU
: NO ONE but Hal can answer that
VONBLU
: but it appears he has a credibility problem.
PriestOfRAHOWA
: Hal isn't a 501(c)3 tax exempt org. Hal isn't a "church" Hal is simply criminaly defrauding listeners to maintain his lifestyly
VONBLU
: Ok, DOC, you made the allegation...so back it up...give your reasons for saying that.
PriestOfRAHOWA
: He asks for money for a specific purpose. The money goes elsewhere
PriestOfRAHOWA
: Simple
VONBLU
: IT's speculation...
PriestOfRAHOWA
: Ask David Duke what happens sooner or latter
VONBLU
: but what gives OUR speculation credibility, vic, is Hal isn't truthful and his latest stunts...
VONBLU
: where there is smoke there is fire (I hate that cliche)
vwolzek
: So, Doc, you think the allegations against Duke are true?
PriestOfRAHOWA: I'm not sayint that they are or aren't. I don't know. What I am saying is that Hal is commiting fraud
VONBLU
: I personally don't think the allegations against Duke are true, because...
PriestOfRAHOWA
: I know the costs of an internet "radio" show
VONBLU
: they are coming from the Jewish quarter if you will.
vwolzek
: Devil's advocate question...ready?
VONBLU: But in the case of Turner...
VONBLU
: You really have a problem when your compartriots question your actions.
PriestOfRAHOWA
: ready
VONBLU
: ok
vwolzek
: More than once you guys have made a point to suggest Hal eliminate his alleged budget problem...
vwolzek: by switching to whiteplanet...
VONBLU: yes
vwolzek
: you have compared your own operating expenses with his, correct?
VONBLU: Well, with his STATED expenses, yes
vwolzek
: The devil's advocate question is of course, isn't that comparing apples and oranges? ...
VONBLU: I don't understand...what do you mean exactly?
vwolzek
: His is a live call-in show, which as far as I know is not offered by White Planet.
VONBLU: Well, that would only add around 200 a month
vwolzek
: Are you suggesting he could do his show as-is for less than he allegges?
VONBLU: That function could be added I am sure.
PriestOfRAHOWA
: And an 800 line costs how much?
PriestOfRAHOWA
: YES
VONBLU
: around 200 a month
VONBLU
: Hell, yes!
vwolzek
: How sure? Hal says it can't.
VONBLU: Hal says he can't what?
vwolzek
: Remember now, I'm the "devil" here?
PriestOfRAHOWA: Tell me Victor. What is the diff between "live" and rebroadcast in a few minutes? I mean he isn't doing breaking news
vwolzek
: Hal says the difference between his costs...
vwolzek: and yours...
VONBLU: Well, the difference...
vwolzek
: revolve around his being live call in.
VONBLU: is that Hal has some fucking Dot-head techie at a data center overbilling him.
vwolzek
: While anyone with a mic and a computer can upload a file, much more is involved in doing a live call-in show...
PriestOfRAHOWA: So have him publish his itemised costs. He won't will he?
VONBLU
: the only viarable I see is the 200 dollar expense in the 800 line
vwolzek
: whether the cost is worth it is a different issue than iff the cost is real, no?
vwolzek: no, the live feed too.
VONBLU: He hasn't even proven that, Vic.
vwolzek
: at least per hal.
VONBLU: He will dole out maybe a bill or two, but that doesn't account for the fucking thousands of dollars of viarance
VONBLU
: I use to be an accountant, vic...
VONBLU
: When you have large fluctiations...
VONBLU
: it's symptomatic of a problem...
PriestOfRAHOWA
: True Victor, Hal constantly calls us "retarded" and "dimwits" but we dare not expose him for the crook he is? Now I've SAID it on our show and not it's in PRINT. He has any number of grounds for legal action but he won't. Why? B
VONBLU
: and again that returns us to HIS credibility problem.
PriestOfRAHOWA
: ecause I could Subpoena his records in my defense
VONBLU
: I would shut the Hell up if he gave a FULL accounting of his monthly bills...but he hasn't and I am sure WILL NOT do that.
PriestOfRAHOWA
: I would win on BOTH fronts. Hal IS a crook and I would get his actual records
VONBLU
: either way...
VONBLU
: it doesn't matter...
VONBLU
: Most folks have figured this out for themselves...
VONBLU
: You wouldn't believe the amount of former Turner fans I get on a daily basis.
VONBLU
: e-mail form them I should say.
PriestOfRAHOWA
: Victor, I like Hal's message to whites. I like his shows, until he begs for money and takes his calls from the same 3 people every time
VONBLU
: Have we satisfied this question, vic?
VONBLU
: It seems to be going in circles now.
vwolzek
: well, just let me ask another to clarify...
VONBLU: k
PriestOfRAHOWA
: lol
vwolzek
: doc's comment about the "same three callers" suggests the other side of the coin...
VONBLU: Well, since Doc said that let him answer it. lol
vwolzek
: namely, the issue isn';t that it *doesn't* cost less than hal says to do a live show, but that the cost is unnecessary. a very different claim. you guys seem to conflate the two. ...
vwolzek: are they the same or different?
VONBLU: No, I didn't say that at all
vwolzek
: doc did.
VONBLU: It very well cost less than what he says, but who in the Hell knows.
PriestOfRAHOWA
: There are a few differances, yes. But he is still lining his pockets
vwolzek
: well if you don't know, on what grounds do you skewer him?
VONBLU: Because of his credibility problems
PriestOfRAHOWA
: He can either put up or shut up.
PriestOfRAHOWA
: I personally think he is a liar and a thief. Is that clear enough?
VONBLU
: It really doesn't add up in my mind.
VONBLU
: The only one that REALLY knows is Hal
VONBLU
: and maybe the IRS.
vwolzek
: he says he has put up. displaying his bills and such. and what von is saying is "who knows?" which is very different from "it doesn't add up."...
VONBLU: Where? When? A bill for his phone bills? That's a partial picture, vic...
VONBLU
: He also doesn't disclose how much he gets from advertisers...or donations...
PriestOfRAHOWA
: Where are his complete bills posted? CRAP Victor! Get real. He's has posted a couple of random bills at times
VONBLU
: there are two sides to a balance sheet.
vwolzek
: let me put it this way, still acting as devil's advocate, ok?....
PriestOfRAHOWA: sure
VONBLU
: Who knows comment from me is a sign that I am tiring of this same line of questioning.
vwolzek
: hal's position is that it costs a motherload to do a live-feed show, with call-ins, 800 line, etc. ...[i'm still going]...
VONBLU: Let him show his debits against his credits and I believe that asshole will be shown for the liar that he is.
VONBLU
: Doc, you have any more to add to this?
vwolzek
: you guys contest his numbers are wrong, essentially he's lying. but when asked how/where/when it gets dismissed as a big mystery that no one knows but hal, etc... that's less than convincing, isn't it? what if it in fact costs $8k..
vwolzek: a month to do a live feed show?
PriestOfRAHOWA: And what is a "motherload?" THAT is the "six million" dollar question...
VONBLU
: He hasn't proven that
vwolzek
: i don't know if it does or doesn't. but it doesn't sound like you guys do either.
vwolzek: he's not accusing anyone of lying. the burden is on you, no?
PriestOfRAHOWA: Cost can be what you want them to be, or what you allow them to be.
VONBLU
: How do you account for the wild fluctuations, vic?
PriestOfRAHOWA
: No. We say he is lying and he will not prove we are wrong
vwolzek
: I don't account for anything....
PriestOfRAHOWA: He doesn't WANT his listeners to know the truth
vwolzek
: the money sounds insane to me for sure.
VONBLU: wouldn't these cost be STATIC somewhat?
PriestOfRAHOWA
: You tell me who he "broadcasts" with and I'll call them to check prices for our show
vwolzek
: but i don't have any ground on which to doubt or believe. you guys evidently do. that's what i'm trying to clarify for myself and readers.
VONBLU: I said it once and I will say it again...
VONBLU
: where there is smoke there is fire
vwolzek
: ok...
VONBLU: Hellatious variant cost...
PriestOfRAHOWA
: Hal has no job. Hal's wife supports him? Hal is independantly wealthy? Right
vwolzek
: two more quick topics?
VONBLU: says it all in my mind.
VONBLU
: ok
vwolzek
: I'll throw em out, you guys respond however you like....
vwolzek: 1) What's with this independent land purchase you've discussed? Is it happening? When? Where? and What will it be for?
VONBLU: Doc...
VONBLU
: I think it isn't going to happen at this time
VONBLU
: Tom Metzger gave some relevent advice on this topic.
vwolzek
: Which was?
VONBLU: I am paraphrasing...
PriestOfRAHOWA
: I doubt it is going to happen. The backing is not there but it would have been a complex undertaking
VONBLU
: Shouldn't make ourselves a target for the Jews to enrich themselves with the land that we purchase.
vwolzek
: What was the original scenario? It sounding like backing is what pronpted it in the first place. did it fall through/
vwolzek: ?
PriestOfRAHOWA: Metzger did it wrong nad WCOTC did it wrong. The Good DOC knows how to do it right
VONBLU
: Remember what happened to the Aryan Nations compound?
VONBLU
: I think Metzger was alluding to that.
PriestOfRAHOWA
: Me and Von disagree on this issue
VONBLU
: I agree very strongly with Metzger on that note.
VONBLU
: Metzger is correct in a lot of areas.
PriestOfRAHOWA
: I wanted to purchase an ongoing alchohol and drug treatment facility that has shown a proffit for 35 years
PriestOfRAHOWA
: The timing is crucial and there isn't enough time to put the deal togather
VONBLU
: Time was an enemy the DOC coulnd't defeat on this issue.
PriestOfRAHOWA
: It involves acerage in the mountains and it could have a dual purpose
VONBLU
: essentially, it fell through, didn't it DOC?
PriestOfRAHOWA
: You must remember that I AM an othodox Bishop. What I buy for the church is church property. What happens on that property is my affair only
PriestOfRAHOWA
: It looks that way Von
PriestOfRAHOWA
: I haven't tossed in the towel yet though
vwolzek
: Well, it sounds like a good idea....
VONBLU: I am not enamored with the idea of setting up compounds...
VONBLU
: that's like running away...
VONBLU
: I say fighting whites move to the ghetto...
PriestOfRAHOWA
: It is. But there is a 4 week window and it isn't looking good
VONBLU
: and kick nigger ass...
vwolzek
: Ready for two more questions? one quickie and then one for you guys to spin on and we can call it a night?
PriestOfRAHOWA: ok
VONBLU
: yes
vwolzek
: First question: You guys are up awful late on a Sunday night. What do you guys do for a living to pay the bills?
VONBLU: I am an artist
PriestOfRAHOWA
: I'm a simple Priest
VONBLU
: a poor one...but that is my vocation.
vwolzek
: so how do you pay the bills, von? doing art?
PriestOfRAHOWA: And I'm an outgagious one, and that is my calling
VONBLU
: You don't get to the VONBLUVENS BUNKER by being rich.
VONBLU
: Yes
vwolzek
: Ok. any more or ready for the last question?
PriestOfRAHOWA: go for it
VONBLU
: yes
vwolzek
: There are a number of groups and philosophies out there competing for listeners, members and dollars....
vwolzek: NA, WCOTC, CI, Hal Turner, Metzger's lone wolf WAR non-organization...etc etc.../.......
vwolzek: there are also competing media hubs like VNN, whiteplanet, Turner Radio network, etc....
vwolzek: what do you guys see happening in the next couple years in the movement and who do you see being key players, movers, shakes, etc.....
PriestOfRAHOWA: Victor, I'm not doing this show for money. I do it because I believe in what we do
vwolzek
: The VB Show, of course, is a part of this milieu. :-)
VONBLU: Competition is a good thing, victor...
PriestOfRAHOWA
: I don't care if people listen to one or the other or none of the aboce. Just make America WHITE again
VONBLU
: Philosophies change almost as quickly as the trends in fashion...
PriestOfRAHOWA
: My belief is that VNN is doing it right though
VONBLU
: let me go through one by one...
VONBLU
: NA, they seem to be more of a media distribution than an actual political force...
VONBLU
: Turner isn't a political force...he is like us...a loud mouth with a microphone
VONBLU
: WAR speaks for itself
vwolzek
: more or done?
VONBLU: The Christian Identity philosophy may be a great seedcorn for a true political fighting force
vwolzek
: oops, sorry. go ahead.
VONBLU: but this religion probably won't ever run candidates in the true sense...
VONBLU
: The media outlets are great...
VONBLU
: I say let the strongest survive and thrive...
VONBLU
: I don't think they should ever merge...
VONBLU
: that would weaken them
PriestOfRAHOWA
: National Socialism can't work. Not many people are going to go for anything "nazi" no matter what it other attractions. I know I'm one of them
VONBLU
: The thing that characterizes this so-called movement...
VONBLU
: is that it needs a laxitive
PriestOfRAHOWA
: I believe that the "Christian Identity" will be the unifyinf force, though I doubt that sceince will back up the theory
VONBLU
: it isn't moving and if it stays on it's current track will become irrelevant
VONBLU
: How does the VONBLUVENS SHOW play into this?
PriestOfRAHOWA
: The point is that White people need something they can collectively believe in
VONBLU
: The biggest, baddest, mutherfucking racist talk show on the net?
vwolzek
: why are you so anti-nazi, doc? what'd they ever do to you? and what did they ever do for you?
VONBLU: Probably little effect at all.
VONBLU
: He is that way from years of Jew brainwashing. lol
PriestOfRAHOWA
: Victor, you are playing into the jew thought process
VONBLU
: DOC...
PriestOfRAHOWA
: You can not be for something but not be "anti" either
VONBLU
: I would rather be surrounded by millions of brownshirts...
VONBLU
: than millions of brown men
vwolzek
: not many people are going to listen to a priest who hates nigs and names jews. does that mean you're wrong?
vwolzek: if it's all about what people will go for, then MTV here we come!'
PriestOfRAHOWA: No, it doesn't mean I'm right either
VONBLU
: I look at me and the doc like this..
VONBLU
: I am Albrecht Durer...
PriestOfRAHOWA
: I espouse my beliefs I hate JudeoChristianity
VONBLU
: And the Doc is Martin Luther
VONBLU
: They had a profound impact on their times...
VONBLU
: and we will have some impact on ours...
VONBLU
: I wouldn't discount National Socialism...but even Hitler said National Socialism wasn't for export.
VONBLU
: I am for what works...
PriestOfRAHOWA
: Listen to my four sermons on the "DOCs corner" it tells it like it is from the Bible perspective. The jews are usurpers and liars. Christs OWN words
VONBLU
: If we can have white autonomy without fucking Jews than I am all for it.
vwolzek
: As a closer, tell us 1) your favorite word; 2) your least favorite word; 3) what you hope to hear God say to you when you approach heaven?
VONBLU: both of us or just doc?
PriestOfRAHOWA
: Now why should a Christian NOT listen to Christ?
vwolzek
: both.
PriestOfRAHOWA: 1 Love 2 Diversity or JudeoChristian 3 Welcome me son
VONBLU
: my favorite word?
VONBLU
: 1. caucasion 2. Jew 3. Your Work Isn't Finished Yet, Von
vwolzek
: Very good! Danke shoen, gentlemen!
VONBLU: 88/14
PriestOfRAHOWA
: You are welcome
PriestOfRAHOWA
: Go with God and sin no more
vwolzek
: Have a good evening, I'll let you know if i need any follow up copmments, kay?
VONBLU: ok, no problem...
VONBLU
: Meet me outside, DOC
PriestOfRAHOWA
: ok
VONBLU
: goodnight
vwolzek
: Ciao.
VONBLU has left the room.