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Importing Anti-Semitism? "La Raza and Jews on Collision Course in Alta California"

http://www.FreeRepublic.com/forum/a3ad30bfd4606.htm

Culture/Society Editorial Keywords: ANTI-SEMITISM,
IMMIGRATION
Source: Vdare
Published: 4/10/01 Author: Steve Sailer
Posted on 04/10/2001 06:34:53 PDT by wideawake

Recently a Mexican-American fringe publication called "La Voz de Aztlan" published an editorial entitled "La Raza and Jews on Collision Course in Alta California," which any Jewish-American concerned about the maintenance of Jewish influence would be well advised to ponder.

It's a fascinating document, but before I quote from it, I'd like to offer some background. I think the Aztlan movement, which calls for the secession of the American Southwest, has no more likelihood of success within the next couple of decades than the neo-Confederate secession movement. Honest treason is much less profitable than dual loyalty. What Mexican President Vincente Fox and his Foreign Minister Jorge G. Castaneda want is for people of Mexican descent living in the U.S. to reap the benefits of dual citizenship. They want them to be able to vote for Mexican interests in American elections and for Fox's coalition in Mexican elections.

Fox has quickly discovered that he is more likely to win large concessions from the American establishment than from the entrenched Mexican establishment. For example, on March 21st Fox spoke in front of the California legislature and asked that California give bigger state college tuition subsidies to illegal immigrants than to American citizens from other states.

At home, however, Fox is finding it much tougher. He knows that his education and health programs are starved for funds because Mexico's rich cheat like mad on their income taxes. Yet the chance of getting them to stop is slim. Fox has instead recommended raising the regressive sales tax.

In contrast, the editorialist for La Voz, having forsworn the devious machinations of Mexican-American politics in favor of simple extremism, enjoys the freedom to express the harsh logic of future American ethnic relations:

The Jews of California, about 3% of the state's population [this figure seems a little low], have an overwhelming and disproportionate share of the state's wealth, which they utilize effectively to wield immense influence on the state's political apparatus principally through dominance of the Democratic Party. . . Since they comprise a very small percent of the overall population, they are forced to utilize strategies outside of having the most numbers to maintain control. A principal strategy is to utilize their vast supply of funds to manipulate the political system as they are presently doing in the race for mayor of Los Angeles. . .

This largely parallels, in an uncharitable way, a March 25th essay in the L.A. Times entitled "Two Powers Passing in the Night" (click here - it may require registration to read) by respected ethnic analyst Joel Kotkin, author of Tribes : How Race, Religion, and Identity Determine Success in the New Global Economy. Kotkin's article was also an exploration of the growing conflict in L.A. between the long-dominant Jews and the up-and-coming Latinos. In describing what he calls Jewish "economic hegemony" over L.A., Kotkin wrote:

Jews reign over many of the most dynamic parts of the city's economy, from Hollywood to real estate, from cyberspace to the garment business. They are well represented at both the elite and grass-roots levels of L.A. business. . . Nearly half the Los Angeles Business Journal's list of richest Angelenos are Jews.

A Jewish-black coalition elected black Democrat Tom Bradley to five consecutive terms as mayor from 1973 through 1989. But blacks are in relative decline in L.A., being swept aside by Mexican immigrants. Kotkin noted:

Unlike Jews and Gentiles, or African Americans, Jews and Latinos share little history or mythology. For the most part, their contacts have been opportunistic. Jews have employed Latinos in garment factories, as maids and gardeners and serviced them as customers in a host of enterprises from Whittier Boulevard to Santee Alley and Pico-Union. . . But these two communities still live largely in separate worlds. Jewish-Latino relations are characterized not so much by an ethnic "schism" as by something between indifference and incomprehension. . . Prospects of creating anything like the black-Jewish alliance of the Tom Bradley years seem dim.

The La Voz editorialist echoes Kotkin's theme and expands upon it:

Our increasing population and voting strength will, in the near future, collide with the interests of the Jews in Alta California, and for that matter, in the other regions of Aztlan. Our increasing ties with our brothers and sisters in Mexico will also present a challenge for the American Jewish community. The Mexican Dual Nationality Program means that we now have the same status with Mexico that American Jews have with Israel. We are now in the position to question the over eight billion dollars [this figure is high] of our tax money that are sent to Israel each year, much of it which is used for military weaponry to strike out against the Palestinians, and soon we will be in the position to remind the American Jews of their shoddy treatment of Mexico when the nation's U.N. Ambassador voted to equate Zionism with Racism.

In assessing this, we should keep in mind that lots of immigrant groups hold much stronger views about Jews than do Mexicans. For example, America's rapidly growing Muslim population. Muslim leaders contend that there are now about as many Muslims as Jews in the U.S. If they are exaggerating, it won't be for much longer. By contrast, the American Jewish Council demographers expect the U.S. Jewish community to shrink substantially in absolute numbers in the 21st century. So within a generation there will be many times more Muslims than Jews in America. The long-run prospects for Jewish political interests, such as support for Israel, are correspondingly dim.

Jews have long tended to back heavy immigration for a variety of reasons, some sentimental, some practical. One reason has been to help break Protestant monopolization of the best jobs in America. While successful, this has obviously reached the point of diminishing returns. There isn't much Protestant hegemony left.

Immigrants arriving in Southern California don't see WASPs running the place. They see Jews as having a huge proportion of the really sexy jobs. The guy who has got the best job in Southern California isn't some WASP head of a big industrial corporation (there aren't many Fortune 500 corporations in LA). No, it's Steven Spielberg.

Now, Mr. Spielberg is a phenomenally competent man (for example, he earned 48 merit badges as a Boy Scout - you only need 21 to make Eagle Scout). He has very much earned his eminence. Still, to anybody who has recently showed up, he's obviously at the top of the heap. To immigrants, the notion that they should subsidize Israel through their taxes, rather than Spielberg and his zillionaire friends doing so through their voluntary donations, is puzzling to say the least.

European opinion has swung strongly in favor of the Palestinians since last fall. The U.S. is the last devoted friend that Israel has left. Jews who want to keep America on Israel's side need to reassess their traditional enthusiasm for immigration.

During the Crack Epidemic years, Jewish voters in big cities helped to bring crime under control by throwing out black mayors and replacing them with white Republicans, like Rudy Giuliani in New York and Richard Riordan in LA, or white conservative machine Democrats, like Richard M. Daley in Chicago. This has worked well.

The next big question: can Jews bring themselves to vote at the federal level for candidates willing to cut back on immigration? That's a much a bigger psychological hurdle than voting for Giuliani or Riordan. You can't tell yourself you aren't selling out your Jewish liberal roots because you still vote for immigration federally.

Jews, however, will eventually realize that by voting for immigration, they are selling out Israel.

This is the logic of political correctness. One of the key texts of the politically correct movement is, of course, Edward Said's Orientalism - a touchstone of what is now called "postcolonial studies".

Latino activists often read this book in tandem with a famous Latino "postcolonial" text called I, Rigoberta Menchu. They are taught that both the Palestinians and Latinos are martyrs, oppressed by Western colonialism. They, like black militants, reject the relevance of the holocaust as something "whites did to other whites".

1 Posted on 04/10/2001 06:34:53 PDT by wideawake
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To: Sabramerican, The Sword, dennisw

Bump.

2 Posted on 04/10/2001 06:35:28 PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake

Anti-semitism is the code word of the ADL = Anti Defamtion League to attack anyone who criticizes Israel. Even Patriotic Americans who can't accept their Politically Correct Speech rules.

It is a term that has been overused by an organization financed by such Pardonned Americans as Rich and Convicted American spy Jonathan Pollard.

I wouldn't pay much attention to the rantings of this Pro-semitic terrorist extortionist group that taught Jesse Jackson an Al Sharpton all they know.

3 Posted on 04/10/2001 06:43:14 PDT by A+Bert
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To: wideawake

I don't know what to say, every other sentence in the piece relies on debateable assumptions.

I do want to make a few comments, however.

1. Mexico's rich cheat like mad on their income taxes. Yet the chance of getting them to stop is slim. Fox has instead recommended raising the regressive sales tax.

The alternative is to lower income taxes dramatically. People will stop cheating as much, and will invest more locally.

2. I, Rogoberta Menchu, has been proven to have been a complete and total fraud, written by a comparatively wealthy woman who went to school in france.

3. La Raza is a basically non-existent entity, financed almost entirely by the Ford Foundation. They have no real support whatsoever.

4 Posted on 04/10/2001 06:44:22 PDT by Rodney King
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To: wideawake

"They are taught that both the Palestinians and Latinos are martyrs, oppressed by Western colonialism........"

HEY! I was first with that take.

5 Posted on 04/10/2001 06:57:47 PDT by dennisw
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To: Rodney King

To your points:

1. Lowering Mexican taxes is a nice idea - but I don't believe that Vicente Fox is the political revolutionary most make him out to be.

2. I know the story of Ms. Menchu's pathological lying well. Even though her lies are thoroughly documented, her book remains on college syllabi and the teachers who assign it rarely draw their students attention to its fictional character.

3. La Raza may be funded largely by the Ford Foundation, but it has many sympathizers. I remember a La Raza campus rally in Chicago which drew about 5,000 angry Latino students. I doubt they all received a check from the Ford Foundation.

6 Posted on 04/10/2001 06:58:55 PDT by wideawake
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To: dennisw

It wouldn't surprise me if you were - in fact, I probably got it from you.

7 Posted on 04/10/2001 07:00:02 PDT by wideawake
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To: A+Bert

Abe Foxman's admitted acceptation of a bribe from Marc Rich in return for pardon pressure on the Clinton administration is a matter of public record.

The ADL is now proved to be nothing other than a mouthpiece of the Democratic party and is an organization wholly without moral authority.

8 Posted on 04/10/2001 07:04:09 PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake

It's a strange, strange world we live in. Everone wants to go to heaven, no one wants to be dead.

9 Posted on 04/10/2001 07:08:25 PDT by d-energy
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To: wideawake

Thanks, Now if we can get the Israeli Lobby to accept that fact and quit playing in our sandbox. Let them play in their own sandbox with the kitty cats.

10 Posted on 04/10/2001 07:08:52 PDT by A+Bert
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To: wideawake

They, like black militants, reject the relevance of the holocaust as something "whites did to other whites".

To be fair didn't we whites reject the relevance of the butchery in Rwanda, and the crime wave in our urban areas as something "blacks did to other blacks."?

11 Posted on 04/10/2001 07:10:04 PDT by bulldog905
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To: bulldog905

I, for one, have pointed out time and again the hypocrisy of those who were gung-ho for intervention in Kosovo but who didn't think Rwanda was worthwhile.

And, unless I've been asleep for the last 30 years, I thought the law and order Republicans who have continually called for a crackdown on urban crime were mostly white. I thought the inner city Democrat politicans who ignored or excused the urban crimewave were in large part black.

It was David Dinkins who sat on his hands while something like 4,000 blacks were murdered in NYC. It was Rudy Giuliani who drove that number down by two-thirds while black activists bitched at him for it.

12 Posted on 04/10/2001 07:17:08 PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake

Maybe you did or maybe you didn't get it from me. I only meant it semi seriously. Yes, I do see parallels between an Israel besieged by a relentless, higher birthrate people just as the USA is. Huge income gap too between Israel/Pallies just like between America/Mexicans

13 Posted on 04/10/2001 07:19:08 PDT by dennisw
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To: wideawake

Maybe it's just me, but as an American I don't like subsidizing anyone with no ties to America. Whether it's Israel, Ireland, Mexico, or a hundred other foreign countries. The politics of California's "minority" community is one of "getting anything you can get for yourself". Not for the betterment of the community as a whole or the American people as a whole.

14 Posted on 04/10/2001 07:22:30 PDT by MoJo2001
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