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The "Suckpoop" Responds to Village Idiot
by M. Adams
July 15, 2002
Alex,
I'm going to respond bit by bit to this individual's rant. Please publish because his holiness has called me a traitor and a snitch. Not very nice, although I expected it knowing the movement as it presently is. Anyway, here goes.....
M. Adams on "Achieving Power": A Study in Suckpoopery Par Excellence
by Gerald Morris
July 13, 2002
M. Adams wrote a masterful essay "On Achieving Power" through opportunism 7/3/02. While he makes some accurate observations about "the movement" and even some tactical suggestions of some merit, on the whole, it betrays his own racial treason.
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M. Adams: Gimmee a break! Have a valium dude! I've been involved in this movement for 12 years and although I've been called many, many, nasty things I've never been called a traitor! I've been called a hatemonger, racist, evil, diabolical and worthless (from a xian/leftist perspective), but never a fullblown, honest to gawd, traitor! And not only that from a marginal essay (as far as I'm concerned - I just spat it out due to being irritated by some annoyingly dumb "thoughts" by others I encountered one day) which I never intended to be taken as holy writ. It basically were my thoughts and what I see needs to happen at some given point. I wrote it in about 15 minutes and made suggestions other than the usual failed methods.
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His essay begins with examples of ancient Roman powermongers who were initially well placed and who sought nothing more than advancement of their own careers. Yes, they "achieved power" but what was the consequence? Corrupt monarchy with secure positions for jewish moneylenders! A worthy study to be assured!
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M. Adams: I detest all this moralizing. My intent was not to get into the moral or righteous side of things, it was simply to suggest how power needs to be achieved or is achieved. Power is amoral. Power can be used for bad or good. But first, my passionate friend, you gotta get it and then you can do all the wishful "let's play fuehrer" all you want.
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There is nothing wrong per se with his next platitude: "There are multiple ways to achieve power. The difference between incompetence and competence is how adaptable one is to the fluctuating opportunities. It can happen any way, any time, and in stages or all at once. It also depends on how good one is at exploiting situations." True true, but are we talking about individuals or organizations? This is easy enough for individuals but when one has a revolutionary organization to answer to, one has responsibilities to it. When the "one" is taking power on behalf of his race, the responsibility is for that race and nothing less.
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M. Adams: Of course. What we're talking about here is a situation whereby chaos is the prevailing condition and one's overt and covert racialism is no longer the primary "evil" that society focuses on. The primary "evil" would be anarchy, no food and other essentials and our enemie's overt arrogance to that overall condition. With that happening we can weasel our way in through a number of ways.
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Adams then uses the example of Hitler's rise to power well enough but screws up on the assessment of what followed. "Hitler just barely got in (by a nose hair), and the timing and events for this were beautiful for takeover. When he got in he MAXIMIZED his presence and acted quickly to liquidate the enemy." Hitler did NOT "MAXIMIZE" his presence nor act quickly to liquidate the enemy. Oh, the Nazi government jailed some commies and outlawed them, but there were plenty of kikes left roaming at large. The Nazi government would prosecute Germans for crimes against jews all throughout its reign. They would take hard currency in exchange for letting jews leave Germany alive for Palestine. There were still plenty of kikes alive IN GERMANY when the Allied Pig Armies stormed, burned, raped and looted their way into Germany. Why was this so? Hitler "worked within the system" and wanted to "keep up appearances," to be "respectable" within the eyes of the bourgeiosie which used him alright but despised him in general, the adoring Friedrich Krupp notwithstanding. All of these mistakes arose from the very same opportunism which Adams preaches. Hitler didn't live to pay for these sins of omission but Germany today toils for the zionist kike which Heydrich was willing to take money from. The lesson here is clear: WORKING WITHIN THE SYSTEM IS NO WAY TO CARRY OFF A REVOLUTION!
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M. Adams: Here's where this fellow sounds like a Gregor Strasser clone. The same old tired "argument' that Hitler never carried the revolution far enough and he was, apparently, supposed to deal with every situation and problem overnight and in a twinkling of an eye. This guy should be in the business world for awhile and he will learn a thing or two about how the real world works (everyone's selfish interests above the longterm good - I'm sad to say). I would send Gerry to Yggdrasil's website where he can read Himmler's proclamation to his fellow SS men that the German populace is so deracinated (this is in the 30s and 40s in a homogenous society remember) and apathetic that hard rule and guidance is needed (my slant on it). Anyway, its quite depressing and I can see (because I HAVE COMMON SENSE) where a gradual approach had to be taken. Unfortunately I think the 3rd Reich was ahead of its time and had too many enemies against it eventhough it tried to placate some of them through delay tactics and diversionary means.
I'm not going to get into a dialogue about how they could have done this and that better because it comes from a 20/20 hindsight perspective. Any tool can do that.
What I will say, however, mistakes were made in the heat of the moment (which is human BTW) and they lost. Period! Next!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Adams then points out something that makes a good rule for any ruler to follow. "Hitler had some good men around him too, and I mean REAL thinkers, not the least of which were Goebbels and Himmler/Heydrich, who made things run much smoother." Yes, Hitler did assemble some bright and capable lieutenants, Dr. Goebbels being the best and most loyal of them. Himmler did good work with his creation of the S.S. and even created the Thule Society as a suitable "secret society" for those sort of mischievous overgrown boys who are apt to join these kind of circle jerks.
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M. Adams: Himmler never created the Thule Society. The Thule existed long before Himmler left his farm.
Himmler was and is my favorite of the NS leaders largely because his vision was the SS' which I see as being almost 98% the same as mine. Oops, I forgot, I'm a traitor, danggggg!!!
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He did so to make a suitably Aryan alternative to freemasonry available to his men.
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M. Adams: Incidentally, occultism in the 3rd Reich is one of my specialties. Freemasonry wasn't dealt a blow due to the Jew issue. It was because it is a secret society and under a totalitarian regime that wasn't acceptable for obvious reasons. The Thule Society and other purely German occult orders were also dealt with in similiar fashion. Himmler, I've read, wanted to control the competition and Christ-insanity was next on the list with the war delaying "the plan" until further notice. Although, a lot of the churches and religious institutions were controlled and neutralized by wartime.
If Gerry had his way they would be dealing with all this and fighting a two front war and execute Erwin Rommel and most of the German military heirarchy for being freemasons. Who would actually conduct the war is a minor detail. v
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Himmler in the end was loyal only to Himmler though, and like Goering, betrayed his Fueher in the end.
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M. Adams: That is a very naive judgement. This is a war we're talking about, man! A lot of nasty and weird things happen in war. I'm not justifying his actions I'm only saying that maybe there is more to this than meets the eye or what we know. Or, maybe Himmler was looking out for number one, which is possible (anything's possible). Or, he said to himself "I'll live to fight another day" like the cossacks! I don't know, but what I do know is that his SS boys were doing some good stuff. So, let's leave it at that.
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Unlike Goering, he didn't redeem himself at Nuremburg. Both Goering and Himmler used Hitler during the Night of Long Knives to achieve their own petty vendettas.
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M. Adams: Ummm...you mean like in just about every situation in history whereby power is desired and achieved? Oh, let me guess, some how, some way, you have the answer to the greatest mystery known to man as far as achieving power is concerned, right? If you do, and I'm not doubting that you do, then maybe you can relate this insight you have to the rest of the white racial movement because when I last checked infighting seems pretty par for the course these days and for the last 50 years. I can't wait...................................
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Had Hitler actually bought the loyalty of the Army with this, it would have been worth it. As it was, the Army never gave more than lukewarm support to the Reich government. Adams neglected to mention Hjalmar Horace Greeley Schacht among those "REAL thinkers." An oversight perhaps? Probably not.
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M. Adams: Gerry, I probably missed an umpteen number of individuals. I never mentioned Schacht because he was not a good man as you so correctly observe. Goring wasn't a good man either. He had a big mouth and a small brain. Not a good combination.
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Here is what David Irving writes of Schacht in his "Nuremburg: The Last Battle, C-17: Schacht Saved on the Square, p 225:"
Even more irritating for Jackson was that Schacht was overheard in the cells confidently predicting that he would be acquitted. Irritating rumours circulated that the prosecution of Schacht was not in earnest. Letter-writers taunted Jackson that he would never succeed in convicting a big banker whether friend or foe, they were the new Untouchables.
He soon became aware that the Nazi banker did indeed have friends in the most unlikely places and influence everywhere. One day one of his team, the eminent New York international lawyer Ralph Albrecht, reported to him that the British assistant prosecutor Colonel Harry J. Phillimore -- later a lord justice of appeal in London* -- had accosted him in the hall outside the courtroom and urged the Americans to relax their remorseless pressure on the banker. When Albrecht, perplexed, asked Why?, Phillimore uneasily explained that certain representations had been made by Sir Montagu Norman, governor of the Bank of England from 1920 to 1944. It would be most unfortunate, murmured the British colonel, if anything were to happen to Schacht. 712 In fact Schacht had been an informer of Sir Montagu, secretly apprising him of the political and financial decisions taken at the highest level in Berlin for sixteen years before the war.713"
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M. Adams: You're right. The guy was firing squad material.
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In the footnotes Irving explains why this peculiar encounter on behalf of Schacht occurred.
*Twenty-five years later Phillimore was one of the three judges who heard this author's appeal in the landmark Convoy PQ.17 libel action, Cassell & Co. v. Broome. Phillimore, Schacht, Montagu Norman, and Sir Norman Birkett, one of the British judges who held out for Schacht s acquittal in 1946, were all freemasons. Jackson was also a leading mason; his diary entry for June 16, 1945 records a conversation in which Truman, Grand Master of the Masons of Missouri, showed him his gavel (Library of Congress, Manuscript Division, R H Jackson papers, box 95)."
There you have it. Hitler hired Schacht to build the Reich economy and this he did. How did Schacht repay the Fuehrer's trust? By spying on him, betraying his country to his masonic "brothers" in England. Such are the fruits of "working within the system." NEVER trust a freemason, White Man!
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M. Adams: Did it ever occur to you that it can work the other way too? No, I guess not. You respond in a typical kneejerk fashion which I think is endemic within the movement and, I suppose, will always be to some degree . Anyway, Erwin Rommel was a freemason and was HE a traitor? A friend of mine, who's a mason and whose father was in the Lithuanian Waffen SS division (he became a mason after the war), knows Rommel's grandson who's a mason and he has helped many a German cause. The lodge that I'm familiar with (I plan on becoming a mason, incidentally) is a York rite one and 3/4 of which are Germans and my friend Dieter tells me a fair number have sent donations to Ernst Zundel, as he has, and have worldwide German connections in Brazil, Paraguay and Germany/Austria of course, with many of them being former NS affliated and were once SS men.
I met a few SS men near the university that I attended and they, unbeknownst to me, were masons. I remember this because of the rings they wore. So, are these men traitors who actually fought on the eastern front and I believe are using masonry to help their fellow man in Deutschland and elsewhere? Should we make enemies of these men, Gerry? They who helped rebuild Germany after the war and were instrumental in helping NS party expatriots escape allied repression. Do we piss on them too? So, let me see if I've got this straight, we have muds streaming in everywhere, Jews who control just about everything and a useless, hedonistic, "white" society to boot, and on top of that many dimwitted morons who inhabit an already underrepresented racial movement and, of course, 5th column elements coming out of every orifice of the American body and I and other pro-whites are supposed to make even more enemies? What, we don't have enough as it is? My conclusion: you're the TRAITOR because it would seem to me you are doing your best to shit in as cornflake bowls as possible. You know Strasserites were very commie-like in their perspective and knowing that you were once a Red yourself maybe your mission is to alienate and marginalize us so much that only dumb luck combined with Godlike miracles will save our asses from assured oblivion.
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Adams then wrote: " Hitler had a lot of powerful people backing him and he DID work within the system. ... Hitler was hobnobbing with the rich and powerful telling them WHAT THEY WANTED TO HEAR. He wasn't trying to appeal to their sense of "justice" or racial awareness. Those vultures could give a shit about that. They wanted to know two things: 1) Are my monies safe?; 2) What do we get out of it? Defense contracts, exclusive deals, etc. (at least that is what you would "promise" them)."
The Party only got "respectable" later. One of Hitler's first Big Bourgeois backers was none other than Henry Ford. Ford liked Hitler for his courageous stance on jews and such. This was during the period of Ford's life when he was agitating through his newspaper, the Dearborn Independent. A LOT of Ford's and Hitler's weltanschaaung was formed by the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion. Ford believed them to be authentic. I don't. Hitler's first and for a long time only Big Money German supporter was Carl Duisberg of I.G. Farben, who was looking for "a strong man" in 1925. Hitler didn't really get much backing until the Party dropped its plans for nationalizing German industry in 1931, when Fritz Thyssen joined.
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M. Adams: I did a report in university on Hitler and Big Business. They helped him a lot! And from all over the world too. With that said only common sense prevails. What you wrote above HAD TO HAPPEN otherwise Herr Fuehrer would have been Herr A Nobody!
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They would have been better off to have quietly executed the lot of the unreliable Schlotbaronen after consolidating power.
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M. Adams: [yawn] Yeah, yeah, yeah... big talk with no understanding on how business really works. Meanwhile guess who would have jumped on the Jew bandwagon openly and without hesitation instead of a few individuals doing some treacherous deeds? Ahhhh duhhhhh you guessed it, BIG BUSINESS!
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These buzzards only cared about their profits, sold the German people a lot of second-rate equipment, wouldn't coordinate their activites -- all to the detriment of the Cause. Stalin's government suffered from none of the maladies that plagued the Nazi regime because Stalin was truly ruthless and knew that business bean counters and army oaficers are worth a dime a dozen. Stalin enjoyed a completely unified command, and Hitler envied it as well he should.
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M. Adams: Uh huh, that is why the Wehrmacht pushed into Russia in near record time only being stopped by one of the worst winters in Russian history. Yeah, Stalin was such a great leader of men and that's why he was in a drunken self-pity state when the German Army were at the gates of Moscow.
Hitler should have dealt with the vultures more ruthlessly but that's really neither here nor there at the present moment.
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"We will fail so long as we are on the outside looking in instead of on the inside looking out."
Platitudes, platitudes! How many masonic platitudes can you puke M. Adams? Bullshit! We will fail so long as we adopt the craven policy you preach. Fuck that! Take it to your bro' Freddy Reed and shove it up his ass! Then, he can do you. We need to piss gasoline from Outside to In and have the torches ready. THAT will get the compliance we need.
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M. Adams: Boy, I can imagine you were playing Horst Wessel Lied on your tape recorder (Or, maybe, "Lenin is in our hearts", right? ) when you wrote your sideline rant there. Sounds good, Gerry! Do it! However, my guess is you'll do shit and in the meantime will end up bitter with a whiskey bottle as your constant companion and nervous breakdowns as a best friend. Its too bad because you have some zest and appeal (many windbags do) but all will come to naught I'm afraid because your way has a single percentiile of succeeding and thats even if all the bravado you gush out actually ends up doing something other than distributing leaflets to soccer moms and multicolored haired fuckwads who will use it to roll their reefers.
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Adams then makes some perfectly cogent observations:
If anyone ever posed a serious threat, let's take Dr. Pierce (who would come the closest at this point as far as an identifiable target is concerned), and "they" were concerned, he would end up with a bullet to the head or everything he built up liquidated almost overnight (forget "Justice" when you have the trigger of power). Very easily done.
Yep! Disappeared! Carcass found in bitty bits in a cow pasture. This is why we should pack heat at all times possible. Make it expensive for "them" to pop your ass.
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M. Adams: Does anyone know what BATF agent provocateur means? Did readers here know that the xian nutjob, Ashcroft, has reinstated COINTELPRO? Now, read what our former Lenin lover wrote above. If my bearings are straight this guy is insinuating that we should shoot back at cops and carry firearms whenever possible (I think conceal and carry is great but for two-legged mud critters, not white cops). The cops should be our friends and allies not another enemy among a list of so many one loses count. Then we play into the ADL's hands that we are "evil" Nazis and cop killers. How fucking stupid can you get!
I only mentioned what "THEY" can do *should they desire it*. The idea is NOT to make them desire it and to entice them to our way of thinking. If you target white cops as "the enemy" then we're even more fucked then we already are.
Thinkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk!!!!!!!!!!!!
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We must organize to the point where we can retaliate in like fashion. That's the sort of language the pigs understand. Of course, one could take the "bullet to the head" remark as a none-too-veiled threat as well as an observation.
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M. Adams: See above. Lot of hot gas expended here. You know, my observations and experience has taught me that those who beat their chests constantly are usually the first to run at even a hint of trouble. So, Last Action Hero, a lotta gums a' flappin but a no'a action, eh? BTW, the audience you are responding to are articulate and intelligent; not some 18 year-old skinheads at a white power concert. Talk is cheap, pal!
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"It is possible a Turner Diaries scenario could happen but very unlikely." Agreed. The point is not to tail events and wait for something to happen but to MAKE THINGS HAPPEN! A small, well-disciplined revolutionary organization can do just that. It won't be easy, but we are fighting for our lives and the lives of our posterity. We have no choice but victory or surrender. [bravo! bravo!]
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M. Adams: [laughing] Oh, this is rich! How many times have I heard this one and when this "revolution" comes he'll be hightailing it outta there. Com'on folks! Any of you out there who's been in the white cause for more then a few years have heard this shit ad nauseum, yes? At what point does it start to wear thin? When do we remove our eyeshades and see things as they really are? Or are we going to continue with this cowboys and indians scenario that Gerry COINTELPRO seems to want real bad and hopes that readers are doltish enough to ingest hook, line and sinker?
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"What is more likely is a semblance of that and "da rich folks" worried about their wealth (mestizos and niggers wanted to expropriate their property) and looking for a "savior" (re: Augustus Caesar in a breaking down Rome)."
Yes, the bourgeoisie will be feeling uncomfortable.
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M. Adams: Bourgeoisie, re: commie-speak for white gentile middle and upper classes
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We can't afford to completely write them off. I suggest we emulate Hitler in one regard - get some foreign backing for the nonce. (Ford) We can use domestic cash too, but certain principles of sound organization must be adhered to. Better to have organizational/ideological integrity than easy cash today. Build the organization first and instill it with the right ideas. The money will come. Even then, beware of who wants to buy you.
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M. Adams: Sounds so easy doesn't it when on a flickering computer screen? Reality is much different. I believe it CAN BE DONE but not how you suggest. Your way is only possible in a very, and I mean very, chaoitc situation (i.e. society). You are the lesser of many evils and I'm sure if you got too uppity your way would be liquidated poste haste in favor of another mud friendly government.
As it stands you will alienate just about everyone and drag what remaining chances we have to the morgue with you. You have disaster spelled all over you and are too dense to see it, obviously. Good luck, buddy boy, because you're gonna need it!
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"It is extremely naive to think that it can only happen one way. I find only Christians are usually that fucking stupid."
Amen, amen. We must have many plans and be able to act on them. The consequences of any action must be well thought out. Kowtowing to the shitty status quo is NOT an option though. Fuck that!
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M. Adams: Who the FUCK said that? Read some Sun Tzu for Christ's sake and then flap your gums! It is WAR but through illusion, deception and just about every other method aside from all out open conflict. But, hey, I have given up long ago trying to preach to "suicide bombers" who are hellbent on destroying themselves.
Which leads me to ask: Are you just plain stupid or can you imagine doing anything aside from yelling "White Power", distributing leaflets, fantasizing about being Mad Max and "capping" white cops asses? Grow up!
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Adams shows some real understanding of "what is to be done" in this next bit.
The truly clever would be getting the niggers and Mexcrement stirred up (implanting in their heads that the 'governmint' owes them slavery reparations, the southwest JewSA is actually Aztlan, etc.) whilst trying to evangelize to our white brethren. Look how the communists do it. They are the absolute best at exploiting situations and opportunities. I've been to their meetings and find their tactics interesting.
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M. Adams: Of course I do. I've DONE IT!!!!! Its easy, fun, and gets results. If I could only tell you what I've done it would make you both laugh and cry. 50% was non-white cause related but could easily have been done either way. I feel totally confident in yelping about it because I learned it in school (And, NO, Gerry not at the Farm in Langley, VA. In U-N-I-V-E-R-S-I-T-Y.) and by a couple of mentors (Fairly major pro-white players). I have big plans in the future with this methodology, however, at the same time one must appear "respectable" (remember: "appear", an illusion) and make friends and influence people always, always, pushing buttons. Never stopping. Never getting down because results are slow to come 90% of the time but 10% of the time they can be fast and that's if, unlike you, you're not wasting time burning every possible bridge around you and fucking up every meaningful connection you can.
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I too have been to communist meetings. I was a member of the CPUSA. Some of their shit is useful. Goebbels won the battle for Berlin by a well-studied pitch to the proles there.
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M. Adams: Goebbels was a horny little genius in my estimation. He's the man who made Hitler!
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There are plenty of activists out there just itching to fight the Establishment, and the commies have been better at getting them into THEIR organizations, toeing THEIR line and doing work for THEIR masters, the kikes, than nationalists have been in many countries, including this one. The best way to fight communist and other jew-spawned ideologies is with a strong racial appeal combined with the call for in-group altruism ergo National Socialism. Stirring up the darkies by appealing to their own sense of national identity and stampeding more of our White relatives into our arms also smacks of a good strategic sense. Likewise, it helps break the kind of sickening interracial "solidarity" the jew-communist miscegenationist seeks to forge. Of course, the kikes could be using various racial tensions to stampede the herd into supporting an ever more repressive regime favoring them -- and they DO control the government/media.
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M. Adams: One of the keys, I think, is to indirectly help the commies/anarchist/lefties promote their view on free enterprise and private ownership. Help them get real big and become a threat whilst we, at the same time, do so too but let them be the heat collectors while we quietly and less vocally build our following and allies. The idea is to become the middle and upper classes bestest buddies and when in power do as we see fit.
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Adams then shits with his keyboard: "I think I should mention this while I'm at it: Hitler, Trotsky, Stalin and Lenin were all spies for the "federal government" of the time. I'm not making an opinion on it, I'm just letting you know these facts."
His presentation of these "facts" grossly misleads the reader, if ignorant of the truth of the matter. Here it is. Hitler DID join Anton Drexler's German Workers Party under orders from the Army. He decided that he liked the Party better than the lickspittle Weimar government. The rest is history. Bronstein (Trotsky) certainly ran an errand as bag boy from Jew York's own Jacob Schiff of Kuhn, Loeb and Co., bringing much-needed cash to Ulyanov (Lenin) in 1917 at a crucial time. This hardly can be equated with collaboration with the Czar's government, though it might be supposed that the Jew S. government of Woodrow Wilson knew of it. Ulyanov (Lenin) himself was in exile in Switzerland for most of Russia's war and only returned with the connivance of the Kaiser's government in a sealed train car in March 1917, shortly after the "February Revolution." There is no evidence that Lenin collaborated with the Czar's regime though, ever. The accusation that Djuggashvili (Stalin) collaborated with the Okhrana, the Czarist secret police, came from Bronstein after the scribbling little kike was booted out of Russia by Stalin. It is conceivable that the Reds did snitch off some anarchists from time to time, just as the Blacks (anarchists) have been accused of so doing by the Reds. The burden of proof lies on Adams to substantiate his "factual" ex-cathedra claim. Don't hold your breath waiting.
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M. Adams: I don't have the books in front of me at present but Stalin had a collaborationist file with the Okhrana, Jew or no Jew fiction. I will state, Gerry, that you are more right than me on this specific issue. Hitler did go in as a spy but came out as leader. Lenin cozied up with the "ZOG" of his day and even a foreign enemy in order to achieve his goals. The US government, an ostensible ally of the then ZOG-like Tsarist gov't, mysteriously gave Trotsky an American passport and other means of support. Etc, etc, etc, blah, blah, blah...
What I'm saying is that these boys took help when needed and offered and did what they had to do. They obviously didn't take pointers from "Gerry's Black Book of Revolutionary Wannabes and Last Action Heroes".
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Before laying the matter of Lenin and Leninism to rest, let's consider some of Lenin's methods and principles. I certainly agree with Adams as far as adopting communist tactics goes. Lenin led a tight little organization of just a few thousand members to absolute power over a large empire. Let's start with collaborators and opportunists. Here is a nice passage from "What is to be Done," his seminal work on how to organize and discipline a revolutionary organization.
(snip long quote)-- free to fight with the marsh and with those who turn to the marsh."
Adams advocates the marsh. To the marsh with him!
His biggest marsh-gas fart erupts thus: "I'm going out on the limb here, but I suggest those of you who can and can show a little foresight join the Freemasons, as an example. Forget the "they be pro-Jew" shit you hear. I know over ten masons and they could give a fuck about Jews and half of which detest them, the others are indifferent."
Well, just as Adam's previous "facts" have been shown to be misdirection tantamount to lies, so too is his assertion that freemasons aren't up to their eyeballs in jew jism. I have provided plenty of linkage and references to jew infestation of freemasonry in my article;
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M Adams: I've read so much shit out there that strings this fact with that fact and then some dingbat conclusion on Freemasons I never even bothered reading your particular diarrhea. I've interacted with *real* masons my little Lenin admiring friend! I am going to join because the good outweighs the bad. I'm also all too familiar with the B'nai Brith being a Jew mason lodge and I also know that the Scottish rite is more attractive to Judeophiles. So with all this in mind and knowing that you see a Jew scurrying around every bush and under every toll bridge (like as if they are demi-gods) I will take your shitty little article and flush it accordingly.
You act like this organization is the only Judeophile infiltrated one out there. Look at our whole fucking society? So, with your "logic", are we to piss and shit on every member of white society too? When I last checked the masons are mostly white and prosperous. Their numbers are dwindling, however, due to obvious reasons, which means they can be useful. If you become one of them the normal channels of dealing with dissent are largely neutralized. And, if power is ever achieved, who knows what can happen? Maybe they'll be liquidated, but until then they can be useful and all else is useless gum flapping!
Just so you know, most of the founding american founders were masons. Most of the promoters of the Aryan doctrine were masons (ex. Albert Pike). Most of the early racialists in American history were masons and the traitors were the non-mason Xians who were more concerned about converting Indian savages then about helping white men.
The masons are NOT perfect but you tell me what around you today hasn't been touched by the Jew and hasn't been tainted by it? I related to you what masons I encountered and have read many fucked up "histories" and supposed new studies on this secret brotherhood - 99% is strung out or outright concocted bunk! Usually its from the same types who believe that a Owl-like "God" is worshipped at Bohemian Grove and that Bob Hope and Richard Nixon are really pedophiles (re: Tranceformation of America) and sadists while finding the time to run a country and keep a busy showman's schedule.
I'm concerend about my fellow white man. I'm not into Mad Max fantasies or whacked out "they be evil freemasons" bullshit theories.
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all Adams can provide is an ex cathedra bullshit assertion to the contrary. I have been acquainted with several dozen freemasons in my lifetime and all but two have been overt semen-bespattered judeophile catamites. But let's not take my word for anything. You have the facts at your fingertips.
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M Adams: Yup, right, "facts" at your fingertips. I've met dozens of great masons who given the right time and place would be a strategic asset. Nevermind, you are into shitting into every cornflakes bowl you can find so I'll let you get at'er!
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The matter of joining a masonic lodge is no trifle. They will have checked you out to the best of their ability. If you are deemed acceptable to them, then they have good reason to suspect you will in truth wholly devote yourself to them.
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M Adams: Not quite. You are kinda right, however. They do inquire about you and you must be sponsored. You cannot be an atheist and join. The rest are details.
And, what's the point of joining something that you aren't commited too? They in turn are TO YOU! Its a two-way street buddy! One which I and others hope to be using a lot more then your average member would, capiche?
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Napoleon Bonaparte sent his brother Joseph and other male relatives into the lodges with the intent of controlling them. Freemasonry played a decisive role in the French Revolution, and Napoleon, a consummate opportunist, sought to control freemasonry in a fashion very similar to what Adams advocates. There is a dubious assertion that Napoleon himself joined a lodge. I'll deal with that in more detail in my next installment.
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M Adams: [groan] Did I ever open up a can of worms or what? You're not done? Oh, joy! More diarrhea to look forward too.
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The point here is that Bonaparte was as much used by the masonic movement as he used them. Some assert that they betrayed him through giving him faulty intelligence in Russia. This merits further research.
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M Adams: And Kim Philby betrayed MI6 and the UK for the KGB and the USSR, so what! And, yet again, closer to home, the white cause is filled with people who may or may not betray it. Such is the ways of the world, guy!
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Adams then set up a straw man to knock down. "A lot of the shit you hear is regurgitated slop from people who have no knowledge about them other than some pathetic pamphlet stating that Lucifer is their headmaster waiting to take over the world and Christ...blah, blah, blah... in otherwords, a Christian slant and an extremely distorted one at that, tantamount to lies."
While true enough in itself, the implication is that ANY criticism of freemasonry is "tantamount to lies."
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M Adams: Wrong, my fellow quack! What I'm saying is that its odd that whenever supposedly "normal" and "sane" people get huffing and puffing about Masons a certain element of quackery seems to prevail. In your case you are not only a former communist but also a Mad max fantasizer that would whack any "pig", as you put it, given the proper "showdown" fantasy you see for yourself. That is why I never read your shitty little country, oooops, I mean "article" on freemasons because my time is too valuable to be spent on a waste of skin such as yourself. I suspect you are not what you project yourself to be (re: BATF agent) and if you are then you are either a fullblown chickenshit (because of your stock in trade bravado - niggra style!) or a fucking loon which extreme movements invariably attract. At any rate you are trouble on two legs. I could give a flying fuck about you but I do care if Johnny New To The Cause gets sucked in by your sophistry and true "bowel movement" methods.
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Adams waves this red herring to distract attention from real jewish connections to his bros. I credited Adams with setting up this straw man but in truth, he merely used it. A far more capable freemason who called himself Leo Taxil set up the "Luciferian" connection through a massive hoax in the late 19th century. Go to http://www.atheists.org/Atheism/roots/enlightenment/ for a full account of it. Here is the kernel of the matter.
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M Adams: Bud, you need help! You see things that aren't there. You tie in together things that are not even remotely connected. You would make a very good conspiracy theorist of the abnormal kind. You remind me of some of the neo-commie/leftist conspiracy nuts who actually think that "Nazis" are alive and well in the US Gov't and Oil companies and that they/we are ready to institute a New Aryan World Order! That George Bush is actually a "secret Nazi" (when he's not driving drunk) and he and Ashcroft are treating pro-whiters with kid gloves.
Like I said, you need help. Seek a good non-Jewish therapist poste haste!
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"The ubiquitous paranoia about Freemasonry, along with the voracious gullability of Catholics, proved fertile ground for one of the greatest literary hoaxes of all time, designed by an Atheist-satirist known as Leo Taxil. Born Gabriel Antoine Jogand-Pages (1854-1907), he was educated by the Jesuits, but soon became a militant Atheist and anti-clerical propagandist....
All of this was set against the background of [useless gibberings that has absolutely NOTHING to do with what I was getting at]
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M Adams: I think this guy has a hate on for Masons pure and simple and when someone actually says they like those Masons whom they know and defend them then that person then becomes an "enemy" in his eyes. Ahhhh well, considering the source I will take it as a compliment.
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Adams then attempts to rationalize a bit. "The masons have both money and connections and everyone I've talked to is concerned about immigration and everything else."
Sure they have money and connections...to JEWS!
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M Adams: People, ignore this dumb fuck! Read my comments about them above. They are NO DIFFERENT then any other institution in America today. If you are a Roman Catholic, which I once was, then your $money$ is presently being used to finance mud breeding and conversions. If you are protestant then the same plus money and support to Israel, oh and need I mention the mexcrement invasion? So should you forsake your congregation and be like this stupid asshole and grab your gun and wait by the door with your whiskey bottle hoping for the "Big Day"! Give ME A BREAK!!!!!!!!!!!
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Sure, they're "concerned about immigration and everything else." Plenty of beaners hate kikes. If we are to believe the ADL, 44% of the foreign-born spics hate the kikes. Hardly surprising. The good "Offices of Enquiry" which jew-masons refer to simply as the dreaded "Inquisition" with the same hysterical tones as the "Holocaust" did a good job of inculcating their brown sheep with a healthy dose of anti-kikery. Both Hymie and John Mason have fucked up by letting them in. Duhhh Hymie, we goofed!
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M Adams: No mexcrement where I'm at so I have no idea if Roman Catholic mexcrement would join the Masons as opposed to the KNIGHTS OF COLUMBUS (doh!) so it looks like psycho boy has fucked up on his assessment, suprised? For those of you not in the know, the KofC are not friends of the Freemasons by any measure and are rivals.
BTW, if you're a RC then join the Knights of Columbus and forget about the "research" and other asinine droppings from this gibbering idiot. By the time you join he'll be in prison getting tattoos and being some "Fuehrer's" bitch because the "Big Day" came and he was wanting in the courage dept. Hey, what do I know? This guy sounds "real" so he must be, right??????? [rolling my eyes]
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Another lame excuse follows this. "Yes, I know Hitler was against masons but that has nothing to do with our situation at all." WHAT BULLSHIT! IT HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH OUR SITUATION NOW! AmeriKwa was founded by freemasons, has the world's oldest pure masonic regime,
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M Adams: Okay, so far whacko you are mostly right. AMERICA was founded by white masons who had black slaves and who thought niggers were animals. Okay, and who did not like Jews either as per Benjamin Franklin and other fellow masons?
Here you go on to say, and in pure fantasy fashion too I might add.....
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is the world's biggest supporter of Israel and this blatherskyte says "that has nothing to do with our situation at all!"
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M Adams: Israel was formed in 1948 so what the fuck does early masonic America have to do with Jew support today especially considering anti-Jew early protestants are now pro-Jew ones? Just about every institution is pro-Jew so what's the big revelation here? So maybe we should drive a horse and buggy because all the car manufacturers are pro-Jew. Or, we should boycott 90% of the food out there because they have kosher labels, yes? Meanwhile, we don't get to events on time, can't eat (most activists are in the city and can't grow their own) and say "Fuck it" to every organizational body muttering under our breath, "They be Jew lovers and Gerry 'the wise' says not to join so I ain't gonna."
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You want to pull a "revolution" off here, you're going to be running smack dab into freemasonry standing against you. This animal is a collaborator! I hope it doesn't hold a NA membership card. If so, the NA has a problem.
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M Adams: Nope, I ain't a NA member! And if I was the opposite would be true but you are too fucked to see that. The only problem is in your mason obsessed mind.
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It's next suggestion has some more merit. "Another suggestion is to encourage as many as possible to become involved in law enforcement." This has TACTICAL value. Adam's strategy though is the road to defeat. "Get my drift? NOT to be part of the 'system' in the end but to facilitate in either destroying it or morphing it to our own purposes." Taken alone, this suggestion is 50% worthwhile, the bit about destroying the system. "Morphing" it doesn't work. Adams has clearly been a part of the system far too long. It has "morphed" him into an apologist. This is the rule, not the exception. Hitler tried to build his regime on the Weimar system and inherited all the ills that came with it. TEAR IT DOWN!
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M Adams: Hey, retard, he tried and ended up in prison. You know, where he wrote "Mein Kampf"? Sounds very easy until bullets are flying and assholes like YOU, who do their best to rabble-rouse the guys, immediately run for cover to carry the "victory" banner another day or until more pinhead suckers are found. Hitler was a real man, an Iron Cross holder, something which you couldn't hope to be even in your darkest dreams.
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He rightly points out that: "I swear the 'movement' does its best to implant into people's heads that ZOG is all knowing and seeing and nothing could be further from the truth. ZOG is nothing but a big dumb monster and we are its ticks and fleas." This is the most truthful statement Adams makes. The ZOG is quite stupid and one can dance around it and irritate it a great deal. Still, if it does set its wrathful beady eye upon you, you are in a world of shit. I've been there.
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M Adams: I bet you have and I would bet you were in a world of shit because you shit your pants when they did come. Probably saying to the "pigs", as you call them, "Geez guys I never thought you would actually take me seriously!!! I wus just foolin an' such!"
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We are then treated to this unhappy bureaucrat's on the job daydreams, thus: "Now, just IMAGINE if we encouraged and TRAINED people to "become" part of it and other organizations. Just IMAGINE if we had little Europes and from childhood to early adult they were instilled with our thinking and then encouraged to join that which is most effective for us and for them. Yep, just imagine..."
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M Adams: [laughing] Ho, this is rich. I'm a bureaucrat now! Designing and supporting little Europe communities is "badddddddd" according to Gerry.
Good, then I won't expect him in one anytime soon.
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This has certain tactical value but is strategically worthless. Every interest group and their dogs jockey for position in the ruling hierarchy the same way. That explains the system we have now, which M. Adams is very much a part of, bought off by jews.
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M Adams: Your lingo sounds all "revolutionary" and everything Gerry but I smell a skunk in you! You seem itchin' for a guns a blazin' scenario. Anyone who tries to suggest something else, from joining masons to creating little Europes immediately gets shot down and then the old, tired, and failed ways are reintroduced as "The only way." You make a good boogeyman for the BATF Gerry!
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By all means, we should send in well-trained, indoctrinated people into positions of influence but this will NEVER change a government which Dr. Pierce has repeatedly told us was flawed from its beginning. The system will look after its own interests first and last.
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M Adams: Goes to show how much you cannot read. Have you ever heard of sabotage. A good example is in the novel "Serpent's Walk" which NA carries I believe. Who do you think was advising the Roosevelt admin during WWII? Yup, Stalin's boys as his chief's of staff, advisors and such. Now, put on your dunce cap, errrrr I mean take it off, and think (yeah, I know that is a novelty these days but just bear with me) about what I just said and then apply it to the white man's situation. Good boy!!!!!
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The next statement shows the petty level of this flunky's intellect. "With that said, enough friendlies within the "system," then one can either make "oops, silly me" mistakes (like conveniently shredding/misplacing a file) or actively help those in need."
And THIS is the basis of M. Adams' "Grand Strategy!" It would be funny if he were puking this pabulum at our enemies. PATHETIC! How many generations of "eugenic" breeding toward perfect office stooges will it take to consummate the "revolution?" Bureaucrats of the World, Unite!
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M Adams: I wasn't writing a political warfare manual you nitwit! That was an EXAMPLE and a minor one at that. The guy could hunt niggers and wogs too if that makes you feel better. He could use his position like the guy in the novel "Hunter" although the result would be more personal satisfaction then long term disruption. One could do anything. There is asolutely NO limits and if there were many then just get around them. Sorry, that takes actual imagination to visualize that which you obviously have none of.
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More smug bureaucratism follows: "First, however, coordination must be achieved or at least should be tried to some extent."
"Tried to some extent" MY ASS! Coordination MUST be PERFECTED among all revolutionary operations.
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M Adams: Gerry the Revolutionary saying to his "comrades": "You guys go in first, I'll cover your backs." Meanwhile, he's no where to be seen in the heat of the battle and afterward makes sure everyone knows his revolutionary prowess.
Mon idiot, I was talking about the beginning of such activity but I guess I should have stated that. I didn't know some jerkoff was going to psycho-analyze some ditty I wrote and twist it to a Talmudic degree.
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"Which means a certain level of sophistication and steering away from the do-nothing waving-placards mentality or the 'Alex Curtis leave snake skins on rose bushes' mindset."
All of these "unsophisticated" methods do more to EDUCATE THE PUBLIC than any bullshit "behind the scenes paper shredding" tactic which Adams is so enamoured of. We have to draw attention and HOLD IT!
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M Adams: I think this boy is a Curtis' lover. The same talk tough dude who caved in at the end. I remember when boy Alex was saying that when they come for him he will go out in a blaze of glory (well, not exactly like that, really close though) and what really happened? He meekly gave up, caved in, and along with the massive legal bills had to promise to be a good little boy for the ADL and ZOG; not associating with anything to do with pro-white causes.
My two instances are PRIME examples of what NOT to do. If you think you're accomplishing something by holding "rallies" then tell that to the Ku Kux Klan who in the 1920s held some big ones and in the end????? Nothin'. Nada. And they even accomplished less in changing things for the white man in the long term. By the time the 30s rolled around their numbers were dwindling to dismal levels. The lesson learned? They concentrated to much on pizzazz and not enough on substance, meanwhile, their avowed enemies were buying up movie studios (Kikes), influencing gov't policy (Commies) and controlling the law enforcement tentacles so they could be persecuted and infiltrated more readily. They lost, so will YOU! So ignore it for all I care because in the end vision will have to prevail of which you have none which is painfully obvious.
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"You wouldn't believe some of the stuff I did to help my associates in need."
OH YES I WOULD, given what you and your "associates" are....
"I was also in a position to gather information for certain individuals very easily."
No doubt. Certain individuals like Abe Foxman perhaps?
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M Adams: Ahhh, Gerry, more like for the cause and no I'm NOT going to give BATF wonderboy (i.e. YOU) examples to prove myself. Take what I said and shove it where it hurts if you actually think I meant Jews R' Us central.
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"I'm not into daydreaming or deceiving myself." No, you are really quite comfy in your petty oafishul position and have no real illusions about your own revolutionary potential, which is nil. But you have peddled your soporific dreams to the wrong folks this time, snitch.
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M Adams: Okay, I admit when I read the "snitch" part I got mad. That is why the tone of this response is so acidic. Then when Gerry was talking about capin' "pigs" and such then I knew this guy is goading both me and the readers. If anyone is a snitch its little ol' Gerry. BTW, that's a great way to destroy someone's argument, divert attention and sully one's reputation, by calling them a "snitch".
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"Direct action has about a single percentile chance of achieving anything." This never deterred real revolutionaries, but you don't know anything about that now do you? Hitler didn't sit on his ass in some cushy little office in Weimar, Germany. He risked getting his head blown off in 1923.
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M Adams: And the final analysis was? Failure! Kaput!
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Goering DID get his balls blown off. You, M Adams don't have any balls so I guess the example is lost on you. It won't be on other VNN readers.
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M Adams: I'd love to hear that in my face and your balls would need reconstructive surgery. Anyway, Gerster, with your big mouth and chest beating I'm sure you can convince many naive twits that you've got big pool table-sized balls. That is until the "Big Day" when they shrink up like you've been on steriods for 10 years running.
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"Whereas the other routes have always been a lot more successful." For petty little wannabe powermongers YES! The current regime is looking for JUST YOUR SORT! Unscrupulous, dull-witted induhviJEWals of your sort are WELCOME in the Jew S. government today. Corrupt regimes have always welcomed opportunists of your ilk. Well, a government full of myopic cowards like you is one ripe for overturning. ITZ COMING!
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M Adams: [yawn] Gerry, I hope to see you leading the march then. And make sure you don't wear your mother's undergarments either because that won't look very masculine and what will the comrades think, although the NSPA once had a Jew as a leader (Frank Colin/Cohen) so I'm sure a big mouthed, know-it-all, crossdresser won't pose much of a hinderance will it? You see I'm calling you a crossdresser because I have decided to jump to the same wildassed conclusions you seem very proficient at. Geez, Gerry, you're rubbing off on me, yahoooo!
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"To be on the outside looking in will undoubtedly lead to nothing." Another common masonic platitude! To be on the outside BATTERING THE ROTTEN INSIDE DOWN will lead to victory! (Okay time to do some snipping because these rants are getting long)
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M Adams: I didn't know it was masonic and if it is, great!
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Adams then projects his own ugly little psyche so: "I can't help but mention too that Hitler encountered a lot of the small-minded types in his movement." Hitler encountered many more pinheads of Adam's calibre in the Weimar government.
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M Adams: And even more pinheads of Gerry's caliber in the early days. Pinheads Hitler eventually either liquidated or "retired".
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Here Adams is trying to sell himself as some sort of BIG FUCKING SOOOOOPHISTICATE. "And what I mean by that is those who are automatons in their thinking. Unadaptable and woefully ignorant about the inner-workings of the political machine. Most of what I've encountered thus far fits this category."
I too have been "inside." Most government types are a bunch of oversocialized little rats who get off sniffing each others arses, eating each others shit and puking it back on demand. Sure, they love to wheel and deal. It's not what you know but WHO YOU BLOW AND I KNOOOOOW WHO YOU BLOW ADAMS.
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M Adams: Whatever Last Action Hero. Let's just nuke'em!!!!
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His contempt for the loyal stalwarts who form the backbone of any organization, including the NA, emerges here: "They can lick envelopes, pay "dues," but aside from that accomplish nothing aside from whining." What these fine folks need is LEADERSHIP and that you don't offer Monsieur Padded-assed Bureaucrat.
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M Adams: I thought your ideal organization was "revolutionary". So the backbone is stamp lickers and dues payers. That's "revolutionary" all right!
BTW, what I meant for those among you who can grasp a concept and hold onto it is that 50 years of the above has got us where? Right! So that means some changes are in order, yes? Dues have to be paid and Gerry twisting it so that it looks like I hold normal patrons in contempt is pure sophistry. I know that more has to be done than licking stamps and paying dues, that's what I meant.
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Here is another bit of half truth: "Many have figured out the "meeting" methods don't work, and then others have tried the asinine "lone wolf" [my gawd, I've never seen anything quite so ridiculous in all my life] method."
When "meetings" are infiltrated by poisonous slugs of Adam's sort, (rest of this slackjawed moron's invective deleted for brevity)
If you have any remaining doubts about who butters M. Adam's ass, then consider his closing line: "I'm not into playing cowboys and indians with my offspring's future." Meaning, it won't stick its scrawny neck out to save ONE member of Our Race.
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M Adams: Folks, this asshole has basically attributed characteristics to me that are so far off the mark it defies description. To keep it simple and because you've already wasted your time with Gerry's fantasies and fucked observations, I'll be brief and won't go into a tiresome tirade about Gerry's shortcomings (which are many).
What we have here is a Strasserite former communist, and I don't mean a fellow traveller hobbyist, but a FORMER member of the communist party talking his shit.
He will have you believe that guns and glory are the only way and that anyone else who suggests otherwise is Abe Foxman's fudgepacker and is really trying to promote the Israeli agenda. Gerry is very typical of the white "bowel" movement and is a dying breed, literally. He's a fool passing himself off as a wise man.
I'm, by religion, a pagan and Asatru to be specific. I have talked to many in this particular offshoot of pro-white beliefs and I'm convinced that we as activists have to calmly, rationally and methodically advance our position any which way we can and in dynamic ways. The more entrenched we become the more invincible we shall become. We slowly convert people back and the whole time expoit any situation we can. I'm not going to get into specifics because that is for another day. What I am saying right now, however, is the 50 years-old methods are dead and although we can still incorporate them we have to try new ways and be a lot more dynamic like setting up our own communities, our own schools and some Asatru that I know even have a colony.
Finally, I have never given ANY indication that I'm a suckpoop or that have the makings of one. To be one seems fashionable these days but it gets you no where as we already know so me being one is pure psychotic fantasies of Last Action Hero Gerry. You can look at it this way. When you stand up to a Rottie, for example, he may not attack, but then again he may so you really don't know (feels challenged). What the Rottie (ZOG) does get baffled with and may even leave you alone is in the face of no fear and righteousness. That Rottie (ZOG) may even act friendly towards you and tolerate you because you don't pose a threat. Now, let's say you are QUIETLY building your own communties and such, meanwhile, ZOG is unraveling. You are having many children and teaching them pride in their folk and race and giving them life skills too. You see you are a vibrant community that stands up for itself yet doesn't make waves and keeps its nose out of everyone else's business. Not 15 minute glory seeking but real nation building.
Along comes a Gerry who is stirring up shit by shooting cops (which he would do by his own admission if they come for him - at least that is what all the bravado insinuates) and making a lot of mindless noise that acomplishes nothing but gives him his 15 minutes of fame. He's "pro-white" didn't you know? The media picks up on this and broadcasts it everywhere (the usual: swastikas and other paraphernalia) making it much harder for you and your community to build itself because this simple village idiot and his motley crew of misfits have painted you with the same brush. Then that big Rottie (ZOG) shows up and he no longer feels friendly towards you. You MAY be a problem and besides you're getting too widespread. Time to do something............and who knows what that may be.
The Gerry's come and go and never accomplish jackshit. They talk a good line (if you're naive) and bellow with a lot of bravado yet in the end leave nothing but misery and sorrow in their wake. If you out there think this guys' way is going to be it then you are in delusion because 50 years of nothing except alienation and poor results prove otherwise. There are many other ways, look around you and copy what you like, discard what you don't. Peak back into history and see how they did it. Create a society within a society and go from there. It can be done and if it can't we are screwed, barring a miracle, and don't expect Gerry the village idiot to produce one, I can guarantee you that.
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