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Niggers Run Wild at Seattle Mardi Gras
Ed. Note: Yet another thread yanked by Cowardly JimRob,
afraid his readers would notice the nigger-apes attacking whites at Mardi Gras in Seattle.
That sort of cowardice is what made America great, Jim, good work... An alert reader
forwarded freeper comments below, for which we are duly appreciative. Anytime Feeb
Republic censors racially "inappropriate" (my how the pants-pissers love that word),
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Black Gangs Beat Whites as Police Watch
News/Current Events News Source: Seattle TV Stations Published: 2/28/01 Posted on
02/28/2001 07:51:26 PST by frankm
For about two hours at the end of Fat Tuesday, gangs of blacks randomly assaulted and
robbed white partygoers in Seattle's Pioneer Square while police stood back and watched
the action on TV. White men and women were slugged from behind,thrown to the ground,
stomped, and had their wallets and purses stolen. Any whites who objected to the whites
being beaten, was jumped and stomped by the gang of blacks.
More than forty people were taken to the Harborview Hospital, sixteen are still
hospitalized, mostly for minor injuries, but two are still in very critical condition
with severe head injuries. At least thirty others were treated at other hospitals
The random beatings went on from about 11:30 until shortly before 2:00 AM, when the
police, who had stood around in battle gear a couple of blocks away, finally moved in
with their armored vehicles and tear gas. Police spokesmen said they did not want to move
in earlier as it would have put police officers at risk.
After showing live the severe beating and robbing of one thin young white woman by a mob
of black savages, the local TV station decided to stop their live filming. Too graphic,
they said. Despite the obvious racial nature of the beatings taking place, TV commentators
made no mention of race, nor do the morning Seattle papers.
1 Posted on 02/28/2001 07:51:26 PST by frankm [ Reply | Private Reply | Top | Last ]
To: frankm
"Hate Crimes"
2 Posted on 02/28/2001 07:55:57 PST by Oldeconomybuyer [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 |
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
and every black "gangsta" in seattle is watching those films today, listening to the tales
of those who participated, and understanding how much they will be allowed to beat and rob
decent white folks without fear of retaliation...
3 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:00:00 PST by frankm [ Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | Top | Last ]
To: Oldeconomybuyer
"Hate Crimes"
Nah. Just goin down town to "get paid".
4 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:00:17 PST by Stentor [ Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | Top | Last ]
To: frankm
This is scary stuff. The Jesse Jackson's of the world are having a real impact. This is
Jesse's legacy.
5 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:01:35 PST by Rippin [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ]
To: frankm
I saw a bit of film on the "riot" this morning, locally. There were blacks beating up
whites; but, I also saw what looked like a Pacific Islander getting beaten on, and then
attacking, a black man. There were also fights breaking out between women.
What got me was that this started at midnight, when the bars closed; and the report said
that the police did not intervene until 1:30 am. So what, they just stood there for an
hour and a half watching?
Another shining moment for Mayor Paul Schell and the Seattle PD.
6 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:03:00 PST by LibertarianLiz [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ]
To: frankm
when the police, who had stood around in battle gear a couple of blocks away, finally
moved in with their armored vehicles and tear gas. Police spokesmen said they did not want
to move in earlier as it would have put police officers at risk.
Forget calling 911. This is a situation where the police were there watching it, and not
serving and protecting innocent civilians being beaten.
If one of the whites had pulled a gun on the thugs, who'd the police have arrested when
they finally moved in?
7 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:03:12 PST by Jay W [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ]
To: frankm
Please give us links to those papers ?..Can we 'freep' the Justice department.the law is
the law,they have pictures of the perps..
8 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:04:33 PST by RnMomof7 [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ]
To: frankm
Police spokesmen said they did not want to move in earlier as it would have put police
officers at risk.
And not moving in put the citizens YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE PROTECTING at risk. It's your
job, you a$$holes!
9 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:04:41 PST by Shethink13 ([email protected]) [ Reply | Private
Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ]
To: Stentor
"I'm gonna get mine's"
I'll send this article to every major news outlet and ask them if they will do a story
about it. Do you think any will respond? Not!
10 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:05:54 PST by In God I trust [ Reply | Private Reply | To 4 |
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To: LibertarianLiz
there were likely some fights between whites also...but if you watched it live there was
no doubt about the race of the "gangstas"...did you see the films of the AP photographer
being stomped to the ground and then beaten with a skateboard??...
11 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:06:57 PST by frankm [ Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | Top | Last ]
To: Jay W
The police are there to protect you ... from the "terrorist" who would dare to have a gun
for his own protection.
12 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:07:25 PST by coloradan [ Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | Top |
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To: frankm
Police spokesmen said they did not want to move in earlier as it would have put police
officers at risk.
These are the same policemen who are lauded for risking their own lives in the service of
others. And let me guess: The Democrats in Seattle forbid citizens the right to defend
themselves from injury while waiting for the brave, self-sacrificing police to finally
arrive once it's safe to do so. And if they do arrive and slap some goons around for being
uncivilized, then the ACLU and DNC ooze out of the woodwork to decry civil rights
violations and police brutality directed against special classes of people.
13 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:08:08 PST by Cultural Jihad [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 |
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To: frankm
What is it about Seattle's police not knowing - or not caring - about massive civil
unrest? First the WTO riots, now this . . .
14 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:08:55 PST by The Energizer [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 |
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To: frankm
Police spokesmen said they did not want to move in earlier as it would have put police
officers at risk.
Is this real? Does anyone have it on film?
15 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:09:15 PST by dragon6 [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top |
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To: frankm
solution - concealed carry
16 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:09:24 PST by ChadsDad [ Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | Top |
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To: RnMomof7
"Please give us links to those papers ?..Can we 'freep' the Justice department.the law is
the law,they have pictures of the perps.."
I like that idea. It's time we get our country back!
17 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:09:25 PST by In God I trust [ Reply | Private Reply | To 8 |
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To: frankm
We in Seattle are getting exactly what we voted for. The Chief of Police was ordered by
the flaming liberal mayor to stay out of it (until it was WAY too late). BTW, the most
severe head injury was a drunk who jumped off an overpass.
18 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:09:38 PST by j_tull [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top |
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To: Jay W
when the TV station decided to quit showing live filming of the "too graphic" violence,
they also requested that viewers quit swamping the 911 lines with calls for the police to
do something...
19 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:09:47 PST by frankm [ Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | Top | Last ]
To: Cultural Jihad
Actually, Washington is shall-issue, though I doubt any of the affected people had availed
themselves of this opportunity.
20 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:11:14 PST by coloradan [ Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | Top |
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To: Shethink13
But if the police had moved in and done anything, they would have been accused of "racial
profiling". If any blacks had been shot by police, the officers probably would have been
put on trial ~ usually twice, or how many times it took to reach the "correct" verdict.
21 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:11:23 PST by Ming_the_Merciless [ Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | Top |
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To: All
Disgusting!
22 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:12:40 PST by RHammm [ Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | Top |
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To: frankm
"Police spokesmen said they did not want to move in earlier as it would have put police
officers at risk."
"Oh boy, that looks really dangerous. Let's just wait until they tire themselves out by
beating up other people before we arrest them"
23 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:14:19 PST by good_ash [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top |
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To: j_tull
The following article was published today on LewRockwell.com:
Armed Bureaucrats Act Like Cowards by Steven Greenhut
An American nuclear submarine, giving military donors what some commentators call a
taxpayer-funded carnival ride, slams into a Japanese fishing boat during a high-thrust
"training exercise" meant to impress the civilians rather than train anybody for anything.
As the Japanese crew and passengers struggle for life, the U.S. Navy crew stands and
watches from the top of the sub without doing anything.
The seas were too choppy, they said, although Japanese fishermen tell reporters that the
seas weren�t even choppy enough to send water into their flimsy lifeboats.
Well, at least these "brave" American sailors weren�t standing around eating donuts while
the Japanese struggled in the water. We leave that sort of thing to the Philadelphia
police and fire fighters. In a videotaped "rescue" along the Schuylkill River last May
they did nothing other than watch for a half-hour or so as a troubled man clung to the
side of a bridge, then jumped off and drowned.
In fairness, I�m not sure if the dozens of Philly cops and rescue workers were actually
eating donuts or cheesesteaks as Matthew Beaufort died, but they were joking around as the
tragic event transpired. It took a roller-blading passerby and another bystander to
attempt a rescue.
This was documented in a "Dateline NBC" special aired recently. There were plenty of
overweight, overpaid cops and firefighters on the scene. They had a long time to bring a
boat under the bridge from a nearby police boathouse as Beaufort threatened to jump. Only
after the two volunteers dragged the drowning man onto the shore did Philly�s finest begin
to take their rescue equipment down to the river. And the officials wouldn�t touch
Beaufort or try to resuscitate him until the rubber gloves and other safety equipment was
on the scene. They left the dirty work for the brave volunteers.
This infuriating response didn�t merit a rebuke from the police commissioner, who actually
praised the assembled cops for their efforts after a public outcry ensued.
These types of incidents, where American cops and soldiers act with cowardice and contempt
for the people they�re supposed to be protecting, are now commonplace. Yet some
conservatives refuse to see what�s going on. They understand how oppressive government
bureaucrats can be, yet they give a pass to police officers and the military in the
mistaken belief that these armed bureaucrats are somehow different from other varieties.
The argument is that police and military are doing jobs that the government must do.
Someone�s got to catch the thugs, and someone has to protect the nation from armed
invaders. Maybe so. But something has shifted in recent years. Police increasingly view
average citizens with contempt, something no doubt reinforced in all those federal
training programs. And very little that our Imperial Military does has anything to do with
defending America from invasion.
I recall a photograph from a year or two ago in the local newspaper. A black tank-like
vehicle drove through a suburban neighborhood accompanied by police officers wearing
military-style outfits and clutching impressive firepower. They were going to the home of
an aging physician to question him in a local crime case. The doctor wasn�t holed up or
brandishing firearms. Yet the local cops thought it necessary to approach the situation
as if they were an invading army.
This is typical. In recent months, California officers shot a young boy in the back during
a drug raid; shot to death an elderly man as they entered the wrong home in a drug raid;
shot to death a homeless woman; shot in the back a Halloween partygoer holding a toy gun;
shot to death a young woman sleeping in her car after her relatives called them for help.
Each time, the cops say what their union lawyers tell them to say: "I believed that my
life was in danger."
Truth is, police are increasingly unwilling to put themselves at the slightest risk, even
though that�s the nature of police work. Far better to shoot an innocent person than risk
harm to themselves. Our military men and women are worse, as they drop bombs on targets
from the stratosphere. Who cares if they accidentally kill and maim scores of innocent
civilians, so long as American troops stay completely out of harm�s way?
This is cowardly and evil.
A recent article I wrote on workplace shootings was a real eye-opener on this score. In
case after case, the cops or deputies did nothing while a madman shot up a downtown office
building, a McDonald�s restaurant, Columbine high school. The officials were unwilling
to endure risk, so they surrounded the building and waited while innocents died en
masse.
Yet every time law enforcement officials bargain for a new contract, they present
themselves as the defenders of the populace in order to justify their outrageously
high salaries. Every time officials further regulate guns they make it more imperative
that Americans rely on these cowards for their safety. This is foolhardy.
America�s police officers and soldiers may not yet be our enemies, but they certainly are
not our friends or protectors. If trouble calls, I�d suggest relying on your own
resources.
February 28, 2001
Steven Greenhut is an editorial writer at the Orange County Register in Santa Ana,
Calif.
Copyright � 2001 LewRockwell.com
24 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:15:18 PST by Jabba the Tutt [ Reply | Private Reply | To 18 |
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To: In God I trust
links:
seattle times
seattle pi
25 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:15:34 PST by frankm [ Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | Top |
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To: frankm
when the TV station decided to quit showing live filming of the "too graphic" violence,
they also requested that viewers quit swamping the 911 lines with calls for the police to
do something...
Should have stepped up the calls to 911 at that request.
26 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:16:28 PST by MissBaby [ Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | Top |
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To: frankm
Update to the Bill of Rights:
The government shall not infringe on the right of criminal thugs to beat, rob, or injure
innocent people.
27 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:16:30 PST by Jay W [ Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | Top |
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To: Jay W
The only number to call is "1911", as in Colt 1911. The "police" that stood around and
let this happen should lose their jobs in the least. The rioters can be identified from
the videos and must be charged appropriately.
28 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:16:33 PST by jsraggmann [ Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | Top |
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To: In God I trust
" It's time we get our country back!" To late. It is now PC to prey on whites. How do you
like being prey? Get used to it!
29 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:17:10 PST by blam [ Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | Top |
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To: coloradan
but as memory has it, one cannot carry a concealed weapon into a bar...and most folks were
there to go bar hopping...
30 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:18:08 PST by frankm [ Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | Top |
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To: frankm
Can't We All Just Get Along?
Here is your future, Euro-america. Learn to love it.
x
31 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:18:50 PST by B-Chan [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top |
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To: frankm
...police stood back and watched the action on TV.
If police had intervened, what do you think the headline would say?
HINT: The ensuing story would contain the announcement that Jesse Jackson was on his way
to Seattle to pay a call.
32 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:20:28 PST by Illbay [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top |
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To: frankm
Police spokesmen said they did not want to move in earlier as it would have put police
officers at risk.
Maybe Seattle needs to hire some police officers from the Ramparts division in LA. It
needs to do something, and fast, or its police force will get the reputation for being
pansies.
33 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:21:16 PST by Torie [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top |
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To: frankm
the local TV station decided to stop their live filming. Too graphic, they said.
This is the press' dirty little secret and has been going on for years. Crimes that would
curl your hair and swept under the rug for reasons that might take a lot of effort to
uncover. And it's happening in all our cities every day. A conspiracy of silence? A
request by authorities or higher ups? An attempt to keep the population feeling "safe"
(and ignorant)? Whatever the reason, thank God for resources like Free Republic. It is
essential for us all to know what is really happening in our neighborhoods. The popular
press sure won't keep us informed.
34 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:21:28 PST by Publius6961 [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top |
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To: frankm
Welcome to a vision of the future.
Welcome to the world of Al Gore, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, and the leftists.
Best wake up, and best speak up, people.
35 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:22:30 PST by East Bay Patriot [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 |
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To: Ming_the_Merciless
In defense of the SPD here, I was listening to KVI our local "RUSH" station, the ONLY
voice of sense in this liberal hell-hole this morning. One SPD officer called in and said
they were prepared and ready, but were not allowed to move in to action because of orders
from higher up, read liberal asshole wimp buttkisser Paul Schell. This moron is the worst
mayor in America. First WTO, now this. He keeps saying "but, this is Seattle, this does
not happen here!"" UPDATE PAUL, it does and is happening here in Seattle. It is time for
you to get your head out of your ass. Rather yet, time for you to go! Some TV footage this
morning also showed black gang members with guns firing towards police. One man
interviewed on KOMO radio said he saw this and told his friends to hit the ground because
he expected a police response, but not came. They then got up and ran away. This was black
gangs, asain gangs who were leading these mobs. Most the the footage I saw were 95% black
and asain gangs doing the hitting. One showed a black guy stomping a white woman on the
ground with his foot. 43 are in the hospital, 2 in critical condition. About 30 are in the
King County Jail. Paul Schell needs to go back to bar tending because he sure as hell
can't mayor worth a damn. Sorry for the language. I am sick of this liberal hell-hole.
I am looking to move to "red" country and get out of the "blue."
36 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:24:38 PST by RetiredArmy [ Reply | Private Reply | To 21 |
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To: frankm
I'm moving to South Dakota
37 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:24:47 PST by coronado [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top |
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To: Shethink13
Police spokesmen said they did not want to move in earlier as it would have put police
officers at risk.
Anybody who would use this as an excuse for inaction should be fired immediately. The
whole chain, from the Police chief on down. Anyone know the Seattle's mayor's email? I
would love to tell him the odds of my visiting his city if this is the acceptable standard
of law enforcement.
38 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:25:16 PST by Publius6961 [ Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | Top |
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To: Rippin
And this is my 15 round clip, dude.
39 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:26:01 PST by Eric in Mpls [ Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | Top
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To: blam
you've got it right...until american whites find the courage to stand up and fight, they
will continue to be prey...and those who think they can escape black hatred by moving to
"safe areas" only delay what's coming to them, and to their sons and daughters...
40 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:27:46 PST by frankm [ Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | Top |
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To: coronado
If you do, be sure to vote against Daschle will you? Thanks.
41 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:28:41 PST by Ming_the_Merciless [ Reply | Private Reply |
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To: frankm
They ain't getting my guns! 38, 45,357, hike.
42 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:29:29 PST by BIGZ [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top |
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To: frankm
Here's a hint: If you don't want to get beat up, stay out of mass drunken parties.
43 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:29:47 PST by AppyPappy [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top |
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To: frankm
They ain't getting my guns! 38, 45,357, hike.
44 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:29:48 PST by BIGZ [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top |
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To: coloradan
Actually, Washington is shall-issue, though I doubt any of the affected people had availed
themselves of this opportunity.
Of course, there is something to be said for the judgement (or lack thereof) of the
victims. Knowing the atmosphere in that city and the constant daily racially directed
beatings, they are out in an uncontrolled crowd in the middle of the night and consider it
fun? Sounds like Darwin Award wannabes to me.
45 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:30:00 PST by Publius6961 [ Reply | Private Reply | To 20 |
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To: Publius6961
It's not just Seattle. This is happening everywhere. 1-2 are killed by blacks at Mardi
Gras every year here in Mobile.
46 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:30:59 PST by blam [ Reply | Private Reply | To 38 | Top |
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To: Jabba the Tutt
My only answer to this is that my son is a police officer, and he is as hard-working and
responsible as anyone could be. Several times he has pursued suspects on foot, into dark
allies, until he caught them or was called back by superiors. Mr. Rockwell is just a
little too smug.
47 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:31:06 PST by Ming_the_Merciless [ Reply | Private Reply | To
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To: frankm
Don't forget that the anarchists have repeatedly rioted and they were ....tada... mostly
white. I guess that doesn't count.
48 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:31:48 PST by AppyPappy [ Reply | Private Reply | To 40 | Top |
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To: RetiredArmy
You are in red territory. I know, the map. Forget the map. Red stands for
communism/socialism. You are in the red territory.
49 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:32:18 PST by DoughtyOne [ Reply | Private Reply | To 36 | Top |
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To: frankm
You said it! When are we going to start standing up for ourselves?! If the colors were
reversed in this matter, don't you know the national media would have been all over this
story. Our country is in trouble when this kind of behavior is swept to the side because
the color of skin is black. I say BS! I'm sending all the major media networks an email
and I would hope that other freepers would do the same. This has got to become news!!!
50 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:32:52 PST by In God I trust [ Reply | Private Reply | To 40 |
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To: frankm
Despite the obvious racial nature of the beatings
Based on the information presented here, I would say there was an apparant racial
component, but not obviously so.
51 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:32:55 PST by Huck [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top |
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To: coronado
I live in Sioux Fals, SD, We have concealed carry here and we don't have riots in our
streets. We are still pretty conservative here. We have a low crime rate.
52 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:34:11 PST by Myers [ Reply | Private Reply | To 37 | Top |
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To: B-Chan
So black kids were the only ones responsible? Why do I not buy it?
53 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:34:16 PST by Benson_Carter [ Reply | Private Reply | To 31 |
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To: AppyPappy
go console paul schell...i've no need of your nonsense...
54 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:34:40 PST by frankm [ Reply | Private Reply | To 48 | Top |
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To: all
They lost their King! The first black president is no long in the house - have some
compassion!
55 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:37:03 PST by crypt2k [ Reply | Private Reply | To 53 | Top |
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To: Jay W
Let's face it, people who go t those things are itching for trouble. Remember when yu were
18-20.
Mexico has the right idea. They have "boys Town" outside the city limits of most cities,
where the riff raff can go and raise hell. I know I have been to most of them.
56 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:37:18 PST by stubernx98 [ Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | Top |
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To: Shethink13
"And not moving in put the citizens YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE PROTECTING at risk. It's your
job, you a$$holes!"
Ummm, no, their 'job' is to enforce the laws, as in Law Enforcement Officer. They work for
the government, not the people.
57 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:37:29 PST by Justa [ Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | Top |
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To: ChadsDad
solution - concealed carry
We already have it, what is your next suggestion?
58 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:37:52 PST by Mahone [ Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | Top |
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To: B-Chan
I have seen this same thing on the Discovery Channel, lions bringing down a zebra. All I
can say is, it's a good thing gangsta's can't eat you, or they would.
Very impressive that it took five or six of these macho men to take down one thin white
woman. Very impressive also that the white boys stood around and watched with their hands
in their pockets.
59 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:38:03 PST by MissAmericanPie [ Reply | Private Reply | To 31 |
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To: Benson_Carter
Benson: These kids ARE NOT "BEATING" up anyone. Check the photo higher up. This is the
kind of thing that most people were doing PRIOR to the gangs getting involved and starting
their beatings. See the photo higher up and you will see the beatings. This is vandilism,
not assaulting.
60 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:38:55 PST by RetiredArmy [ Reply | Private Reply | To 53 |
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To: Shethink13
The police have no obligation to protect the citizens. Their job, as defined by the US
Supreme Court, is to investigate crimes and arrest suspects, but they are not required to
intervene during a crime.
Washington is a shall issue state. I wonder why nobody busted off some caps?
61 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:38:56 PST by monkeyshine [ Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | Top |
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To: frankm
Just saw the video hi-lites of these riots for the second time. This was outrageous
behavior by many people, especially in the Seattle riot. Looked to me like a whole lotta
black folks beaten up on white folks. May be my eyes deceived me, but just what do we have
police for? Going out in public today for any large public event, you better be carrying
some help, or else your asking for trouble.
62 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:40:29 PST by Reagan Man [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top |
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To: B-Chan
Here is your future, Euro-america. Learn to love it.
It's so easy to react negatively. It takes no effort or thought whatsoever. What is
difficult is to remain firm in your resolve to be a positive force for change in your
community, or in your country. What is difficult is to think creatively and give time to
pursue solutions to societal problems,such as youth violence or failing schools. That's
what so impresses me about GW Bush. Rather than take the easy, no-effort route of
complaining and criticizing, he takes the long standing American stance of refusing to
fall into negative thinking, and insists on being a positive force in the nation. In so
doing, he has earned my respect.
63 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:40:32 PST by Huck [ Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | Top |
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To: In God I trust
I just saw the riots in Seattle and Philadelphia on Fox news. I don't understand why these
large guys are just taking heavy slugs to the faces of the females. What's going on? There
are people in the hospitals in CRITICAL condition.
64 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:40:40 PST by blam [ Reply | Private Reply | To 50 | Top |
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To: Benson_Carter
Emulating black behavior, Right?
65 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:42:11 PST by blam [ Reply | Private Reply | To 53 | Top |
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To: frankm
until american whites find the courage to stand up and fight
Who are you fighting? What is your objective? What are you talking about? Why shouldn't
black Americans stand up and fight against this too? I don't claim responsibility for
srimes committed by whites, why should blacks take responsibility for crimes committed by
blacks?
66 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:42:28 PST by Huck [ Reply | Private Reply | To 40 | Top |
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To: Benson_Carter
I don't see anyone being beaten to a pulp in your picture!
67 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:42:31 PST by southern rock [ Reply | Private Reply | To 53 |
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To: RnMomof7
Here's a link to the Seattle P-I. CLICK HERE. Best reason in the world for concealed
carry.
68 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:42:35 PST by D Joyce [ Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | Top |
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To: frankm
Clearly those camera dudes were profiling the brothers ! Where's it show the white folks
who were puttin' their faces in front of the brothers, while they were swinging their arms
in a free speech expression ? This looks like a job for Jesse AND Al Sharpton !!
69 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:42:41 PST by genefromjersey [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 |
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To: frankm
My husband was playing in a New Orleans style band last night right in the thick of it. At
one point they thought they were going to get crushed by the crowd but got out of it. You
are correct no mention of the black on white violence in the paper. KVI, Kirby Wilbur, is
talking about it though. In the 70's Fat Tuesday wasn't like this. There was only one riot
that I remember during all the years I went to it. Most of the crowd last night looked to
be under 21 or barely over 21.
70 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:43:13 PST by ethical [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top |
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To: Myers
But how is it that SD votes Daschle and that other doofus into power? That has got to
stop.
71 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:43:13 PST by yellow bay [ Reply | Private Reply | To 52 | Top |
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To: RetiredArmy
I am sick of this liberal hell-hole. I am looking to move to "red" country and get out of
the "blue."
Ditto. Still wishin' that Eastern WA were it's own state.
72 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:44:07 PST by anniegetyourgun [ Reply | Private Reply | To 36 |
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To: Huck
i watched about two hours of live filming last night...sure, there were white drunks
acting up too, but the violence was overwhelmingly by a small number of blacks...and the
violence ought not be described as fights...they were beatings and stompings...beatings of
white people by blacks...
you can pretend otherwise, if that gives you a more comfortable feeling...but pretense is
not reality...
right now on kvi, a seattle police lieutenant is telling that the police were expecting
this to happen, and were prepared to deal with it, but were held back from above...he's
not said the name, but the responsibility is on paul schell's head...again...
73 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:44:53 PST by frankm [ Reply | Private Reply | To 51 | Top |
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To: frankm
Hmm ... perhaps I'm a radical but would SHOOTING all these 'gangsta' been a bad thing ?
Try that crap in Dallas and you'll have a war on your hands.
74 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:45:26 PST by Centurion2000 [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 |
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To: Cultural Jihad
A few years back two Seattle police officers sued the city for emotional trauma. Why?
Because, in pursuit of an armed bank robber (the Hollywood bandit), they had to engage in
an exchange of gunfire!!!! The horror.
75 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:46:01 PST by ethical [ Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | Top |
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To: Benson_Carter
whom do you see being stomped in the photo you provide??...
76 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:46:01 PST by frankm [ Reply | Private Reply | To 53 | Top |
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To: coloradan
Maybe the ones beaten were bleeding heart liberals that have just been converted to
concealed carry conservatives.
77 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:46:03 PST by D Joyce [ Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | Top |
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To: Benson_Carter
You are right. It's not a race issue to me. It's a crime issue. Criminals come in all
shapes and colors.
The hood dancing on the hood of that car belongs in jail for 30 days and a $500 fine IMHO
for misdemeanor vandalism, destruction of private property and possibly drunk and
disorderly conduct.
78 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:46:41 PST by monkeyshine [ Reply | Private Reply | To 53 | Top
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To: ethical
Most of the crowd last night looked to be under 21 or barely over 21.
Which suggests there is plenty of blame to go around. To parents, who let their kids out
unsupervised, to alcohol vendors, who knowlingly supply liquor to minors, and to the
community as a whole, for tolerating public drunkeness.
79 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:46:48 PST by Huck [ Reply | Private Reply | To 70 | Top |
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To: Benson_Carter
Hey Benson, its funny, but I don't see one of the white people in your photo committing
any ACTS OF VIOLENCE. Do you? Crawl back in your hole.
80 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:47:01 PST by DonPaulJones [ Reply | Private Reply | To 53 |
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To: RnMomof7
Please give us links to those papers
I, too, like to see a link to something at least resembling a news organization. This is
what I came up with after a search at news.yahoo.com: Channel 6000.
81 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:47:06 PST by newgeezer [ Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | Top |
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To: Huck
I agree with that. It was black folks who helped Reginald Denny after his beating during
the LA riots.
82 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:47:17 PST by yellow bay [ Reply | Private Reply | To 66 | Top |
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To: MissAmericanPie
Most of the people at these events are liberal scume "no matter what race", if they get
the stuffing beat out of theme - so what - they deserve each other. Oh buy the way we of
the conservative side are at home with our family, and we are very prepared, if you get my
drift!
83 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:47:34 PST by zboa [ Reply | Private Reply | To 59 | Top |
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To: frankm
Bill O'Reilly has bee harranguing the Rap Music industry lately. This area in Seattle has
been known to have a high rate of violence related to the Hip Hop clubs. The city closed
them down once and were inundated with complaints and protests by the Black community to
reopen them. I am not even sure what the difference is between Hip Hop and Rap, but one
thing they have in common is the relationship to violence. I don't think that it is the
music, itself, though. I think that you have to add another component,drugs or alcohol.
84 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:48:14 PST by Eva [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top |
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To: frankm
you can pretend otherwise, if that gives you a more comfortable feeling...but pretense is
not reality...
I am not "pretending" anything. I am not "assuming" anything either.
85 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:48:22 PST by Huck [ Reply | Private Reply | To 73 | Top |
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To: Eva
I think that you have to add another component,drugs or alcohol.
And that's underaged drinking apparantly. There's plenty wrong with this picture.
86 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:49:19 PST by Huck [ Reply | Private Reply | To 84 | Top |
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To: anniegetyourgun
Join Idaho.
87 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:50:06 PST by yellow bay [ Reply | Private Reply | To 72 | Top |
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To: AppyPappy
Don't forget that the anarchists have repeatedly rioted and they were ....tada... mostly
white. I guess that doesn't count.
Of course it counts, don't be a jackass. When violence is specifically directed as a
concerted mugging, the animals should be shot on the spot regardless of their color, as
far as I'm concerned. No qualifications whatsoever.
88 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:50:08 PST by Publius6961 [ Reply | Private Reply | To 48 |
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To: RetiredArmy
What I see is that kid standing on someone elses car, and I read in this article here that
minutes later, the car was overturned and destroyed.
Now, I would not be driving my car to an event like that (where I would be drinking, and
others as well) but if this had been my car (a designated driver or something) I would be
kicking this white kids ass.
89 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:50:14 PST by Benson_Carter [ Reply | Private Reply | To 60 |
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To: blam
"What's going on? There are people in the hospitals in CRITICAL condition."
I'm telling you we need to make a big deal out of this to the media big boys. If we don't
then these kinds of things are going to happen more and more frequently.
90 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:50:18 PST by In God I trust [ Reply | Private Reply | To 64 |
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To: Huck
That's what so impresses me about GW Bush.
Damn straight. GW knew how to handle thug trash like this in Texas. He led the way in
doing away with pansy ass juvenile "justice" laws so these misunderstood youth could get
a taste of some real jail time. Good creative thinking GW!
91 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:52:10 PST by hcmama [ Reply | Private Reply | To 63 | Top |
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To: blam
no, they are emulating ASSHOLE behavior.
there is a difference
92 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:52:22 PST by Benson_Carter [ Reply | Private Reply | To 65 |
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To: frankm
I have sent this along to Michael Medved, Michael Savage, and Hugh Hewitt to cover on
their talk shows.
Let's see who among them have the guts to cover this "radioactive" story.
93 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:52:26 PST by Travis McGee [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 |
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To: Benson_Carter
So black kids were the only ones responsible?
Responsible for what? I see, in the picture you submitted, a large group of young people.
Nowhere in this picture do I see any violence or apparent threat to anyone. Not the case
with pictures sent in by others.
94 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:53:49 PST by FreePaul [ Reply | Private Reply | To 53 | Top |
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To: yellow bay
YUP. After the LA riots, I became a gun nut. Never owned a gun previously.
95 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:54:15 PST by blam [ Reply | Private Reply | To 82 | Top |
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To: Mahone
We already have it, what is your next suggestion?
Pull it and use it.
96 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:54:28 PST by D Joyce [ Reply | Private Reply | To 58 | Top |
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To: frankm
Interesting, isn't Seattle the place where jackbooted thugs beat unarmed (albeit
misguided) anti-free trade protestors?
I seem to recall that in Communist states in the early days, the police enforce a
heavy-handed rule of law (plus gratuitious terrorism) except when the stooges of the
regime are terrorizing the populace in the guise of popular support for the regime, when
they get a free ride. Perhaps we could let the Peoples' Republic of Seattle secede, and
have two Republican senators from the part of Washington state that stays in the Union.
97 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:54:29 PST by The_Reader_David [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 |
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To: Mahone
"solution - concealed carry We already have it, what is your next suggestion?" YES. Start
using it!
98 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:55:34 PST by blam [ Reply | Private Reply | To 58 | Top |
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To: Benson_Carter
Funny, I don't see anyone getting beaten in this picture.
Buy it, believe it.
99 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:55:52 PST by Johnny Blaze [ Reply | Private Reply | To 53 |
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To: Benson_Carter
Please place the source of this photo. Wasn't this from the Seattle P-I? One photo does
not tell the whole story. More photos need to come forth for us to judge the whole
story.
100 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:56:00 PST by Basil314 [ Reply | Private Reply | To 53 | Top |
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To: DonPaulJones
rascism runs rampant here. crime is crime regardless of race. crawl back into your own
hole and stop wasting my air.
101 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:56:29 PST by Benson_Carter [ Reply | Private Reply | To 80 |
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To: RetiredArmy
This was black gangs, asain gangs who were leading these mobs. Most the the footage I saw
were 95% black and asain gangs doing the hitting. One showed a black guy stomping a white
woman on the ground with his foot. 43 are in the hospital, 2 in critical condition. About
30 are in the King County Jail.
Am I correct in assuming the ones in jail, are the whites who were being beaten, or
defending themselves? Probably not, but it is a thought. Will political correctness end
only when we are all dead?
102 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:56:40 PST by Mark17 [ Reply | Private Reply | To 36 | Top |
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To: Benson_Carter
"So black kids were the only ones responsible? Why do I not buy it?"
Do you see people being punched and kicked? NO!!!
103 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:57:43 PST by In God I trust [ Reply | Private Reply | To 53 |
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To: AppyPappy
You are right. The problem is IDEOLOGY more than anything. The white liberal anarchists
are every bit as bad and as detestable as the black gangsters. I despise them both with
equal animosity.
104 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:58:55 PST by ohioman [ Reply | Private Reply | To 48 | Top |
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To: frankm
And I bet there was there was no Rodney King type saying "Why can't we all just get
along?"?
105 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:59:37 PST by b4its2late [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top |
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To: Jabba the Tutt
Right on. Too many police today have scaredy cat mentalities. This liberal "safe at all
costs" hysteria is influencing police departments. All the more reason why "self defense"
really means self defense, it's up to you. In the 1960's there was a gunman who went up
into a tower on a college campus in Texas and started shooting. My mom told me that her
uncle or cousin was one of the people killed. A few years ago my son, in a criminal
justice class, watched live footage of that scene. The tower gave the gunman an incredible
advantage and yet what did the police do? One brave cop ran across the open square to get
to the base of the tower while another had his back. He went up into the tower and nailed
the guy. They didn't wait for massive back-up or riot gear or negotiators. They didn't
wait until every element of danger had been removed, they took care of business! If only a
cop like that had been at Columbine.
106 Posted on 02/28/2001 09:00:11 PST by ethical [ Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | Top |
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To: Benson_Carter
So black kids were the only ones responsible? Why do I not buy it?
Benson, that is crap. They may be rowdy, but I don't see any of them trying to kill
anyone.
107 Posted on 02/28/2001 09:00:53 PST by Mark17 [ Reply | Private Reply | To 53 | Top |
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To: Basil314
just as my one photo doesn't tell the whole story, so can be said about the other single
photo posted by others. I was presenting another side to the situation.
108 Posted on 02/28/2001 09:01:44 PST by Benson_Carter [ Reply | Private Reply | To 100 |
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To: Squantos,harpseal,pocat,Noumenon,hollywood,jahzzz
"38!- 45!- 357!--- HIKE!!"
109 Posted on 02/28/2001 09:02:04 PST by Travis McGee [ Reply | Private Reply | To 93 |
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To: D Joyce
Maybe the ones beaten were bleeding heart liberals that have just been converted to
concealed carry conservatives.
That would be nice. But if their brains are too far gone to mush, they will instead call
for higher taxes to pay for more government programs about harmonious living. We can only
hope that isn't the case.
110 Posted on 02/28/2001 09:03:20 PST by coloradan [ Reply | Private Reply | To 77 | Top |
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To: dragon6
it is very common for the police of today to cower in fear when there is danger. I have
witnessed it before. About 5 years ago in Phoenix I witnessed a situation where a skinhead
with a swastika tatoo was holding someone hostage with a gun. The police were called. The
police knew this fellow, they knew he was armed, they knew he had a half-wolf dog that he
used to intimidate anyone who came to his property, they were willing to call him on the
phone and talk to him, but they weren't willing to knock on the door, even when it was all
over and the person had been released, even though the police knew that the 2 citizens who
said the guy was holding someone by gun the police still let him go. I don't blame them,
they could've been killed for knocking on the door. But this case in Seattle is worse,
the police officers should always be thought of as the cowards they are, they deserve no
special respect any more.
111 Posted on 02/28/2001 09:03:40 PST by Red Jones [ Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | Top |
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To: j_tull
Wow. That sounds like one heck of a career move, doesn't it?
112 Posted on 02/28/2001 09:04:02 PST by Alberta's Child [ Reply | Private Reply | To 18 |
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To: Benson_Carter
You want to know about racism? Yes there is white against black racism out there, but not
nearly as bad as black against white racism. The big difference is that black racism isn't
talked about in this country. I know first hand about black against white racism and I'm
sick and tired of not being able to talk about it. I'm going to shout about it ever since
my car broke down near a black naighborhood and I was asked what I was doing in there area
and then beaten to a pulp and robbed. The whole time this was going on the words mother
f*#king white boy were being shouted. Get the point now?!!!
113 Posted on 02/28/2001 09:04:19 PST by In God I trust [ Reply | Private Reply | To 101 |
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To: Travis McGee
my guess is that none will cover the race of the savages, or of their victims...btw, there
were a couple of MEN there...two white bouncers came out of one of the bars and rescued a
guy who the blacks were stomping into the pavement...if a few more of the white boys there
had grown spines, the troubles would have quickly ended...but seattle is more known for
jellyfish and gooey ducks than for critters with spines...
114 Posted on 02/28/2001 09:04:52 PST by frankm [ Reply | Private Reply | To 93 | Top |
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To: Huck
why should blacks take responsibility for crimes committed by blacks?
I am not saying that all blacks should take responsibility for the crimes of these scum
bags either. One thing though, blacks tend to think of themselves as a group, where most
whites think of themselves as individuals.
115 Posted on 02/28/2001 09:05:17 PST by Mark17 [ Reply | Private Reply | To 66 | Top |
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To: MissAmericanPie
my sentiments exactly, I'm afraid if I were there, then I'd have been violent. Any police
officer from 50 years ago would've done the same, they're cowards today.
116 Posted on 02/28/2001 09:06:22 PST by Red Jones [ Reply | Private Reply | To 59 | Top |
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To: Publius6961
Paul Schell e-mail: [email protected]
117 Posted on 02/28/2001 09:06:28 PST by ethical [ Reply | Private Reply | To 38 | Top |
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To: frankm
An armed society is a polite society.
118 Posted on 02/28/2001 09:06:49 PST by Mike Darancette [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 |
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To: ethical
"Paul Schell e-mail: [email protected]"
Thank you! Use it freepers!!!
119 Posted on 02/28/2001 09:08:12 PST by In God I trust [ Reply | Private Reply | To 117 |
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To: zboa
>>Most of the people at these events are liberal scume "no matter what race", if they get
the stuffing beat out of theme - so what - they deserve each other.
I live in Seattle and a wholeheartedly agree with the first half of your statement, except
I'd leave out the word "scume" (although I think you mean "scum"). I just have a hard time
calling people names that are not technically correct.
This would be a spectacular area if not for the politics - kind of like San Francisco.
I was downtown during WTO, walking by HUNDREDS of police in gear right out of a science
fiction movie. It was severely spooky. They let mayhem break out and FINALLY got involved.
The police chief resigned over that fiasco and a lot of people wanted the mayor to as
well.
We now have a different police chief but the same mayor, and the problem persists. Gee,
who should resign this time.
120 Posted on 02/28/2001 09:08:54 PST by RobRoy [ Reply | Private Reply | To 83 | Top |
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To: ohioman
You are right. The problem is IDEOLOGY more than anything. The white liberal anarchists
are every bit as bad and as detestable as the black gangsters. I despise them both with
equal animosity.
Amen brother.
121 Posted on 02/28/2001 09:10:00 PST by Mark17 [ Reply | Private Reply | To 104 | Top |
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To: In God I trust
I am truly sorry to hear about your unfortunate situation. I am not making excuses for
anyones behavior based on skin color, and certianly there is black-on-white rascism. And
of course it isn't going to get reported in the mainstream media; the media is run by
liberals and they only report white-on-black crimes. However the truth remains that crime
is crime regardless of the color of the criminals skin and the color of the victims. The
sooner we punish the criminals, and stop referring to people as "hyphonated Americans",
the better off we'll all be.
122 Posted on 02/28/2001 09:10:12 PST by Benson_Carter [ Reply | Private Reply | To 113 |
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To: Travis McGee
You know Medved is based in Seattle.
123 Posted on 02/28/2001 09:11:04 PST by ethical [ Reply | Private Reply | To 93 | Top |
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To: ethical
you are exactly right in your analysis, the police have become cowards. What that cop did
in the mid-60's they no longer will do, they have managers who teach them to be cowards
rather than men. They no longer deserve any special respect. Today, they expect us to
respect them because they have power, not because they deserve our respect any more.
Not only that the police have become petty dictators who are willing to lie on their
police reports and lie under oath. When the real challenges come, they run and hide, I've
witnessed it myself and obviously it happened at Columbine.
124 Posted on 02/28/2001 09:11:34 PST by Red Jones [ Reply | Private Reply | To 106 |
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To: frankm
Whatever happened to police using nightsticks to bust some heads.
Growing up in Dallas in the 80's, you could get your head busted for just drinking a beer
under the bridge.
125 Posted on 02/28/2001 09:11:40 PST by Topaz [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top |
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To: frankm
Democrat's get votes by fanning the flames of black hatred.
Sadly, the citizens reap the chaos of what democrats sow.
126 Posted on 02/28/2001 09:11:47 PST by GOPJ [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top |
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To: AppyPappy
Here's a hint: If you don't want to get beat up, stay out of mass drunken
parties.
Very good point. Mardi Gras celebrations, nowadays, seem prone to degenerate into drunken
riots. Punk white kids should stay away to avoid getting in trouble or beat up by tough
ethnic gangs.
127 Posted on 02/28/2001 09:12:02 PST by ThreeOfSeven [ Reply | Private Reply | To 43 |
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To: Benson_Carter
There is clearly a bias in people's minds that "hate crimes" can only be committed by
white people.
Recently the local news reported a police shooting involving black and hispanic citizens
and an asian police officer.
The news reported that the shooting was not racially motivated because the victims where
black and hispanic and the police officer was asian.
It seems very clear to me that "hate crimes" can only be commited by white, non-homosexual
males.
128 Posted on 02/28/2001 09:12:11 PST by JoeFromBurbank [ Reply | Private Reply | To 53 |
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To: monkeyshine
I strongly disagree with you.
The car that you see in that photo with the guy dancing on the hood was actually trying to
leave the scene. That guy, along with anyone alse in the crowd that surrounded the car,
would have gotten 30 days in the intensive care unit or the rest of eternity in a cemetery
if I was driving that car.
129 Posted on 02/28/2001 09:14:05 PST by Alberta's Child [ Reply | Private Reply | To 78 |
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To: Benson_Carter; ALL
The caption from the picture on the Seattle PI web site:
Fat Tuesday revelers pounce on a car attempting to leave the scene along Yesler Way.
Within seconds, all of the car's windows had been smashed. Mike Urban / Seattle
Post-Intelligencer
130 Posted on 02/28/2001 09:15:02 PST by TankerKC [ Reply | Private Reply | To 53 | Top |
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To: Mike Darancette
The logic is inescapable. The conclusion, irrefutable.
131 Posted on 02/28/2001 09:16:07 PST by yellow bay [ Reply | Private Reply | To 118 |
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To: Benson_Carter
I don't want to fall into the race trap on this thing. The issue for me is the actions,
not the race. Always has been and always will be. That said, if you can point to 35 green
guys doing evil and 1 purple guy doing the same evil, the two are not equal. Unless, you
recently completed a government school education.
The video and eyewitness evidence is overwhelming this time, regarding race. Sorry benson.
However, the only way race is germain to me, in this type of situation, is when people
literally ignore it. That is just odd. It's like not noticing if the beater or beatee is a
man or woman.
Not noticing obvious details exposes an agenda. If you read their coverage, you'll notice
the Seattle PI definitely has one. KVI Doesn't.
132 Posted on 02/28/2001 09:16:16 PST by RobRoy [ Reply | Private Reply | To 108 | Top |
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To: Benson_Carter
Well said, I too believe that crime is crime no matter color, but we have a serious
problem in this country with reversed racism. It needs to be heard about. Those people who
attacked me should be punished under a hate crime sanction. If they ever catch them (it's
been years) they will be accused of battery and theft. That's it. This hate crime stuff
needs to go both ways and I'm sick and tired of everybody poo-pooing this serious racism
problem we have. The blacks are able to use that excuse at will, it's time to turn the
tables.
Sorry about the ranting, as you might tell I am very angry about this subject. That's all
for now...
133 Posted on 02/28/2001 09:16:31 PST by In God I trust [ Reply | Private Reply | To 122 |
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To: Mark17
One thing though, blacks tend to think of themselves as a group, where most whites think
of themselves as individuals.
What are you basing that on? This forum is based on a "group" identity. But we still
retain our own identity. Politically, blacks have acted in a bloc, in order to weild any
power at all. This comes from being shut out of our system for so many years. But even if
blacks "tend to think of themselves as a group", that doesn't mean they should be held
responsible for what others do. Maybe it isn't just blacks who "tend to think of them as
a group."
134 Posted on 02/28/2001 09:16:42 PST by Huck [ Reply | Private Reply | To 115 | Top |
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To: JoeFromBurbank
Here here!
135 Posted on 02/28/2001 09:18:30 PST by ashrad [ Reply | Private Reply | To 128 | Top |
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To: monkeyshine
Their job, as defined by the US Supreme Court, is to investigate crimes and arrest
suspects, but they are not required to intervene during a crime.
Could you elaborate on this please? it is fascinating. Seems to me every time police
respond to a school shooting, a bank robbery or a hostage situation they are "intervening".
I suppose I understand, then, that they do so only because they feel like it, not because
it's part of their job?
136 Posted on 02/28/2001 09:19:03 PST by Publius6961 [ Reply | Private Reply | To 61 |
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To: ohioman
Walk down the streets of any large American urban area and tell me: Who is the bigger
threat to your personal safety: A "liberal white anarchist" or a "black gangster"?
If you don't answer with the latter, you haven't been to a city, say, in about 5
decades.
It's very comfortable and oh so PC to equate the 2 types of thugs you mention, but you
seems to have your hand in the sand when it comes to the racial realities of this
country.
137 Posted on 02/28/2001 09:20:18 PST by bulldog905 [ Reply | Private Reply | To 104 |
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To: frankm
I went to the Seattle PI link. There were many more than just black kids involved.
This is nothing new. (Alcohol)+(tesosterone)-(any concept of social restraint)-(police who
give a damn)=riots, violence and thuggery.
138 Posted on 02/28/2001 09:20:59 PST by BlackKnight 96 [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 |
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To: Shethink13
Hey!!! Are you stupid or something?! The police are only there to perform no-knock entries
on your private residence at 3am and shooting you in the back based upon rumors that you
might have perscription medicine, .22 caliber firearm, or a bible. Then cover it up by
classifying the evidence as secret. Also, better make sure your poodle doesnt bark either
or it will get shot as well. Man, dont you know anything?!?!?
139 Posted on 02/28/2001 09:21:33 PST by Agent99 [ Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | Top |
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To: monkeyshine
If that's a picture of the kid dancing on the car in Philly, it was taken about 2 seconds
before the driver got out and beat the living sh*t outta that kid.
140 Posted on 02/28/2001 09:21:44 PST by Johnny Blaze [ Reply | Private Reply | To 78 |
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To: frankm
police actions suggest better that white taxpayers be beaten than for police officers to
get hurt...time to vote the liberals out of office...VOTE REPUBLICAN...
141 Posted on 02/28/2001 09:21:51 PST by thewildthing [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 |
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To: Benson_Carter
You consider 4 black men holding and beating a white woman to be morally equivalent to a
white man standing on a(nother white man's) car? Having made this equivalency you then
present the "we don't know everything" and "everybody does it" defense to excuse both
actions. Yeah, you're to be considered a civilized person. No reason not to welcome you
into political debate.
Many posters to this website are somewhat aware of marxists, communists and their
accomplaces, -whatever their skin color.
142 Posted on 02/28/2001 09:23:10 PST by Justa [ Reply | Private Reply | To 108 | Top |
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To: bulldog905
See reply 113..
143 Posted on 02/28/2001 09:23:45 PST by In God I trust [ Reply | Private Reply | To 137 |
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To: Publius6961
In all fairness to the TV people, I've even seen FReepers who objected strenously, flaming
those who post a picture that they consider "too graphic." They just don't get it. Until
the public can see with their own eyes what's going on, they will never understand.
144 Posted on 02/28/2001 09:24:27 PST by JudyB1938 [ Reply | Private Reply | To 34 | Top |
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To: Publius6961
I suppose I understand, then, that they do so only because they feel like it, not because
it's part of their job?
This is basically true. Technically, this is to prevent you from being able to sue your
local police department if you are the victim of a crime, and they are not there to
prevent it.
145 Posted on 02/28/2001 09:24:38 PST by southern rock [ Reply | Private Reply | To 136 |
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To: Benson_Carter
Do you always cry racism?
146 Posted on 02/28/2001 09:26:01 PST by Johnny Blaze [ Reply | Private Reply | To 101 |
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To: B-Chan
Here is your future, Euro-america. Learn to love it.
FORGET EURO-america! Here's your future...AFRO-america. Learn to love it! [BARF!]
147 Posted on 02/28/2001 09:26:21 PST by Mean Maryjean [ Reply | Private Reply | To 31 |
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To: ethical
Seattle propaganda site. CLICK HERE. I'm sure the Mayor would love to hear from
you.
148 Posted on 02/28/2001 09:26:37 PST by D Joyce [ Reply | Private Reply | To 117 | Top |
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To: All
>From KVI radio/NWCN this morning: There was a gang unit there, and they recognized many
of the troublemakers. Several callers to the radio station identified the group of black
youths as being the main aggressors. There are 70 people in the hospital, two in critical
condition. This police chief is taking the fall, but the word is that he was under orders
to hang back. Hopefully, Mayor McCheese is toast.
149 Posted on 02/28/2001 09:28:02 PST by TheAmericanPeople [ Reply | Private Reply |
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To: Jabba the Tutt
Could this be an example of bureaucratic cowardice?
150 Posted on 02/28/2001 09:28:38 PST by Cruising Speed [ Reply | Private Reply | To 24 |
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To: Justa
Let me remind those who would bang their fists and demand the firing of police officers
over this latest Seattle debacle of a few salient points. During the fallout from the WTO
debacle in Seattle, police officers were roundly criticized in that city (and by liberals
nationwide) for their use of excessive force to put down what amounted to an armed
insurrection. Although officers used tactics and equipment approved by the City of Seattle
(through its corporation counsel, as ALL police manuals are these days), they were
characterized as goons who overreacted to displays of justifiable protest and expressions
of free speech. In short, it was the line police officers who were blamed for causing the
rioting and property damage. This is a manifest lie. Lest another disservice be placed at
the feet of the working officers of Seattle, I would like to remind FReepers of the Rodney
King incident...and point out that this travesty of justice changed the tactics of police
officers nationwide. Seldom do we now see a stick-swinging melee...and when we do, we can
be assured that in the back of every officer's mind is the phrase "federal court
defendant". If force is needed, it tends to be in the form of pepper spray, which can
incapacitate without causing excessive trauma...certainly without the kind of trauma that
75 sutures to the head would result in after a "sticking". (The kind of trauma that the
suspect's attorney has photographed to portray the suspect as the true victim at trial,
ensure acquittal, and then sue the department and the officers.) The only way for officers
to survive the current legal climate (which is prevalent in liberal urban centers such as
Seattle)is to resort to group crowd control tactics. This type of "measured response"
prevents the free-for-all type of incident that photographs so well for the all-seeing
minicam...and prevents charges of excessive force. This situation grates at the nature of
the individual officers...the impulse to react, to control, to end the incident is almost
overpowering. But to do so without command approval(including civilian authority) and
appropriate tactics invites the loss of job, home, and income for the individual officer.
To those who do not understand the realities of modern policing, and the disadvantage that
the individual officer is placed at, this looks like inaction. The temptation to say "what
are they waiting for" is legitimate...albeit uninformed. Our line officers in America have
been placed out on a limb by the media, the legal climate, and the second guessing of
"commentators" who profess expertise in law enforcement, but somehow never saw the sun
rise through a cruiser windshield. Do not blame the Seattle officers. Blame the civilian
authorities who command them. Blame the media for rushing to judgment when an officer uses
force. Blame the false prophets who portray predators as victims, and their defenders as
antagonists. Most of all, blame liberalism for the climate in which any and all manner of
outrageous behavior is legitimized as self-expression. It is time to un-handcuff the
average cop in the United States. Perhaps then the lightning-quick responses demanded by
some on this board will again be forthcoming. But until those officers have protection
from the plaintiff's attorneys for action taken when simply doing their jobs...the jobs
they hunger to do as they once did...the cautious citizen will avoid angry mobs and
dangerous crowds. Otherwise they may be stomped by those who wish to "express themselves".
151 Posted on 02/28/2001 09:28:40 PST by PrkChps [ Reply | Private Reply | To 57 | Top |
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To: frankm
All the more reason for the ownership and open carrying of guns to be promoted. See
"Why I Carry":
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3a9a6b05316f.htm
152 Posted on 02/28/2001 09:28:47 PST by tberry [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top |
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To: BIGZ
.308, .38, .357, .9mm, 12ga, SKS, HIKE!!!!!!!!!
153 Posted on 02/28/2001 09:29:00 PST by Agent99 [ Reply | Private Reply | To 42 | Top |
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To: RobRoy
We now have a different police chief but the same mayor, and the problem persists. Gee,
who should resign this time.
Has the term "recall" been banished from the Seattle vocabulary since I departed that
Socialist paradice?
154 Posted on 02/28/2001 09:31:06 PST by D Joyce [ Reply | Private Reply | To 120 | Top |
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To: Ming_the_Merciless
My only answer to this is that my son is a police officer, and he is as hard-working and
responsible as anyone could be. Several times he has pursued suspects on foot, into dark
allies, until he caught them or was called back by superiors. Mr. Rockwell is just a
little too smug.
I can sympathize with how you feel about this. Here in CR Ia. the police are seriously in
charge of situations like this. They take personally even the rumor of gang activity and
they crack down on anything that even smells like a gang. I read about Seattle and I swear
I'm reading science fiction. But, people from big cities tell me it's that way all
over.
155 Posted on 02/28/2001 09:31:07 PST by biblewonk [ Reply | Private Reply | To 47 | Top |
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To: frankm
Police spokesmen said they did not want to move in earlier as it would have put police
officers at risk.
Burger King is taking applications.
156 Posted on 02/28/2001 09:32:08 PST by freefly [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top |
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To: frankm
It's a little more complicated than one event, and it went down something like this - wild
revelry until midnight, but very little violence. Lots of street drinking (illegal here)
and underage drinking by the college and highschool crowd. Along about midnight the
younger folks and the less rowdy went home, leaving the most violent and the most drunk
to party, and yes, up until this the police just stood there. I saw some people getting
their picture taken with the riot-police. (This was actually much earlier - I didn't stick
around for the serious partying - not on a "school night.")
Then small gangs began to circulate, some black, some asian, not so many hispanics. It was
these guys who were pulling people aside at random and beating and robbing them. Most of
the victims were white, some weren't, according to the news stories. Two in critical
condition.
Now as for concealed carry - the only ones who seemed to be armed were the bad guys, and
some of them were actually shooting. In Seattle proper (as opposed to the outlying areas)
carry is rare as most of the people downtown are flaming liberals who view firearms as
contagion. These people are food, and the predators were out in force.
As I type I'm about two blocks from ground zero, and the place looks like a war zone -
trash all over, planters tipped, graffitti on the walls, broken beer bottles. Kind of
reminds me of WTO. We'll be picking up and cleaning up and life will return to normal,
and my hopes are that the two in critical condition will be able to say the same.
157 Posted on 02/28/2001 09:32:27 PST by Billthedrill [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 |
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To: southern rock
I don't see anyone being beaten to a pulp in your picture! 67 Posted on 02/28/2001 08:42:31
PST by southern rock
You don't? Then let me post the larger version of the picture. The guy to the right has
connected. The guy at the top is connecting. The guy in the lower left is swinging. The
other two guys are getting ready to. That's a circle jerk I wouldn't want to be in!
158 Posted on 02/28/2001 09:32:44 PST by JudyB1938 [ Reply | Private Reply | To 67 | Top |
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To: In God I trust
OH MAN!!!! your kidding yourself. The media liberal elites dont care WHAT happens outside
the gated million dollar communities. Your trash, Im trash we are all TRASH in their eyes.
Everyman for himself outside the 'castle walls'. "Let them eat cake!"
159 Posted on 02/28/2001 09:34:46 PST by Agent99 [ Reply | Private Reply | To 50 | Top |
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To: ethical
Michael Medved is the first one I emailed. On monday he had on the author of a book
called "Taboo", about why black athletes dominate sports, and why everyone is afraid to
talk about it. He said repeatedly that "On this show we are not afraid of ANY topic".
We'll see.
He never covered "The Wicheta Horror", but last year he did cover a series of black on
white muggings and murders in Seattle.
160 Posted on 02/28/2001 09:35:00 PST by Travis McGee [ Reply | Private Reply | To 123 |
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To: Huck
This comes from being shut out of our system for so many years. But even if blacks "tend
to think of themselves as a group", that doesn't mean they should be held responsible for
what others do. Maybe it isn't just blacks who "tend to think of them as a group."
Huck, you need to read it again. I also did not say that all blacks should be held
responsible for the crimes of these scum bags. The criminal elements tend to think of
themselves as a group. Whites tend to think of themselves as individuals. Lower class
whites, the ones in prison, or who probably should be in prison, also tend to think of
themselves as a group, but it is mostly for protection from other gang bangers. I doubt
you have been in the big house as I have, and seen it all. That is partly what I base it
on.
161 Posted on 02/28/2001 09:35:20 PST by Mark17 [ Reply | Private Reply | To 134 | Top |
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To: yellow bay
I can only say that I don't vote for him. Dashchle sounds good to the voters and he is
very influential in Washington. I suppose that appeals to those who vote for him. There
are still many people here who speak out against him. If we can get a good personality
to run against him, who knows?
162 Posted on 02/28/2001 09:36:31 PST by Myers [ Reply | Private Reply | To 71 | Top |
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To: Benson_Carter
WHAT?!?!? Maybe the car was his! Could it be that he was just making a fool of himself for
laughs? However, I dont believe the fists in the face of that poor girl were hers!!!
163 Posted on 02/28/2001 09:36:50 PST by Agent99 [ Reply | Private Reply | To 53 | Top |
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To: Benson_Carter
I am truly sorry to hear about your unfortunate situation. I am not making excuses for
anyones behavior based on skin color, and certianly there is black-on-white rascism. And
of course it isn't going to get reported in the mainstream media; the media is run by
liberals and they only report white-on-black crimes. However the truth remains that crime
is crime regardless of the color of the criminals skin and the color of the victims. The
sooner we punish the criminals, and stop referring to people as "hyphonated Americans",
the better off we'll all be.
You finally said something I agree with.
164 Posted on 02/28/2001 09:37:08 PST by Mark17 [ Reply | Private Reply | To 122 | Top |
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To: JudyB1938
WITNESS our New Leaders in 20 years! Blue,Red,White,Yellow,Black..........
165 Posted on 02/28/2001 09:37:47 PST by splint [ Reply | Private Reply | To 158 | Top |
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To: southern rock
OOPS. Sorry. I should have paid more attention. Wrong picture. You were talking about the
other one.
166 Posted on 02/28/2001 09:39:48 PST by JudyB1938 [ Reply | Private Reply | To 67 | Top |
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To: JudyB1938
Hey there, I was replying to that guy Benson_Carter regarding HIS picture of the kid
standing on the car. He was trying to compare the two pictures, and I wasn't buying it.
(Scroll back up and check)
167 Posted on 02/28/2001 09:40:25 PST by southern rock [ Reply | Private Reply | To 158 |
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To: JudyB1938
and that same scene was repeated over and over on white victim after white victim, both
white men and white women...TV showed one white man having his head repeatedly rammed like
a battering ram into a concrete wall by black animals...in another scene, a white women
was walking along bothering no one, when a black guy ran up from behind her and slugged
her in the back of the head...as she went down, several other blacks punched and kicked
her, stole her purse and then moved on to their next victim...
168 Posted on 02/28/2001 09:40:48 PST by frankm [ Reply | Private Reply | To 158 | Top |
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To: Huck
Oh please. You are going to chalk this up as just youth & alcohol? And then accuse others
of being lazy in there thinking? Sorry pal,I have been young and drunk in Pioneer Square
many times and never stomped on people(okay, once but that was in self defense) Do
yourself a favor and resign from the white guilt brigade.
169 Posted on 02/28/2001 09:40:54 PST by thurules [ Reply | Private Reply | To 79 | Top |
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IF it was blacks beating up whites during this riot then that is a fact which needs
neither refuting nor defending. But to take that fact and then say things like "Here is
your future, Euro-america." and "until american whites find the courage to stand up and
fight, they will continue to be prey" is pure unadulterated Turner Diaries-style racist
bullshit. Yes there is a pro-minority slant in the press but you are overcorrecting for
it.
There are more than a few black FReepers and a couple of you just spit in their faces.
170 Posted on 02/28/2001 09:41:05 PST by ICU812 [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top |
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To: frankm
...if a few more of the white boys there had grown spines, the troubles would have quickly
ended...but seattle is more known for jellyfish and gooey ducks than for critters with
spines...
Yep, I can just hear....
(Niles): "Frasier! Those hooligans jostled me, causing me to spill my cinnamon latte!"
(Frasier): "Oh, Niles - all over your cashmere sweater! Well! Just you wait... when I start my
radio show today, I'll begin by giving them a tongue-lashing that they won't soon
forget!" ;-P
171 Posted on 02/28/2001 09:41:24 PST by Charles Martel [ Reply | Private Reply | To 114 |
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To: frankm
Are you sure these were gangs of blacks? Not a single major media outlet has reported on
the race of the perpetrators of these horrid crimes. If this is true I assume they will be
charged with hate crimes?
172 Posted on 02/28/2001 09:43:43 PST by Godel [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top |
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To: ThreeOfSeven
Mardi Gras celebrations, nowadays, seem prone to degenerate into drunken riots.
Only in places that have no idea what Mardi Gras is all about. The rest of the country
sees it as lewd, drunken, naked debauchery. That's why you have what you have in Philly,
Seattle and Austin.
In Lafayette, it's pretty much promoted as a family event, and it goes off without any
major problems (other than traffic). Yesterday, there were only five arrests, which ain't
bad when a town of 115,000 swells to close to 1 million. Even in New Orleans, it doesn't
get to the point of riots, and there are a heck of a lot more people there for Mardi Gras
then there are in Philly, Austin and Seattle.
173 Posted on 02/28/2001 09:45:01 PST by RaginCajun [ Reply | Private Reply | To 127 |
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To: all
Some of this racial crap goes right along with Jesse Jackson. He'd be proud.
1. Most blacks aren't thugs that go around to beat up whites. Some so, and then some
whites beat up blacks too. Most people in EITHER race don't do it. (For the record I know
a black man jumped and beaten by whites and a white man jumped and beaten by blacks, and
both were racially motivated)
2. The PC WHITE LIBERAL media is the one that you should go after on this for not
reporting it one way. PC WHITE LIBERALS are the problem.
174 Posted on 02/28/2001 09:45:10 PST by Dan from Michigan [ Reply | Private Reply |
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To: PrkChps
If you look up the definition of "paragraph", you might understand why no one read your
post.
175 Posted on 02/28/2001 09:45:30 PST by Publius6961 [ Reply | Private Reply | To 151 |
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To: jsraggmann
Personally, I feel the situation the young woman found herself in, called for close in
work, rather than a gun.
Never hurts a lady to know how to use a knife as well as a pistol. Unless of course she
knows how to load her own ammo to stay in what she places it in.
It really wouldn't do to have a through and through shot in a crowd like that.
176 Posted on 02/28/2001 09:45:32 PST by MissAmericanPie [ Reply | Private Reply | To 28 |
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To: JudyB1938
Is the white person in the blue jacket with the poneytail being pummeled by black thugs a
man or a woman? Do you know what his/her condition is?
It should be simple to ID the perps, are these creeps under arrest today? Thanks.
177 Posted on 02/28/2001 09:45:43 PST by Travis McGee [ Reply | Private Reply | To 158 |
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To: frankm
What a novelty! Black on White violence!
This won't make the national news because it's a "dog bites man" story.
Black-on-everybody-else violence is the normal state of affairs in modern America.
While I do not ordinarily blame the victim, anyone who "parties" in an environment
habituated by young Black males is simply asking for trouble. These people are conditioned
to Groupthink and to violence as a form of social and artistic expression.
Some simple precautions will prevent (or at least postpone) becoming a victim. Do not go
where they are. And if they arrive where YOU are, leave. Being armed will not help, unless
you wish to have a small scale re-enactment of Isandhlwhana.
178 Posted on 02/28/2001 09:46:24 PST by Goetz_von_Berlichingen [ Reply | Private Reply |
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To: PrkChps
" It is time to un-handcuff the average cop in the United States. Perhaps then the
lightning-quick responses demanded by some on this board will again be forthcoming."
I believe I understand your sympathies rather well but that wasn't the point of my earlier
post. In a nutshell:
Police enforce laws/answer to politicians; politicians make laws/answer to special
interest groups. The overall effect is to confiscate liberty and rule a captive populace.
Police need to WAKE-UP to the Set-Up.
179 Posted on 02/28/2001 09:46:52 PST by Justa [ Reply | Private Reply | To 151 | Top |
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To: Justa
Ummm, no, their 'job' is to enforce the laws, as in Law Enforcement Officer.
Isn't it against the law to riot and assault people?
They work for the government, not the people
I've read somewhere that here in the US we are a government, for, by, and of the
people.
180 Posted on 02/28/2001 09:47:32 PST by FormerLurker [ Reply | Private Reply | To 57 |
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To: Myers
If someone does run against Daschle, all Freepers ought to resolve to send at least $10 to
him/her. That's not too much to ask to be rid of one of the country's worst demagogues.
181 Posted on 02/28/2001 09:48:03 PST by Ming_the_Merciless [ Reply | Private Reply | To
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To: In God I trust
just did!
182 Posted on 02/28/2001 09:48:27 PST by Agent99 [ Reply | Private Reply | To 119 | Top |
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To: Godel
blacks and a few asians, somoans, and hispanics...but primarily black...and no, you won't
hear that on seattle radio except from a caller to a talk show...and blacks in seattle are
not eligible for hate crime charges...
183 Posted on 02/28/2001 09:48:59 PST by frankm [ Reply | Private Reply | To 172 | Top |
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To: bulldog905
It's very comfortable and oh so PC to equate the 2 types of thugs you mention, but you
seems to have your hand in the sand when it comes to the racial realities of this
country.
Even the Reverend Jackson himself has been quoted as saying he breathes a sigh of relief
when the footsteps behind him on a street at night belong to a white person rather than a
black.
184 Posted on 02/28/2001 09:49:15 PST by RaginCajun [ Reply | Private Reply | To 137 |
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To: Billthedrill
These people are food, and the predators were out in force.
Thank you for the fine first-person sobering report.
185 Posted on 02/28/2001 09:51:19 PST by Publius6961 [ Reply | Private Reply | To 157 |
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To: MissAmericanPie
Very impressive that it took five or six of these macho men to take down one thin white
woman.
They get really courageous when the odds are 5 to 1..
Very impressive also that the white boys stood around and watched with their hands in
their pockets.
They didn't want to be accused of a hate crime I guess..
186 Posted on 02/28/2001 09:51:44 PST by FormerLurker [ Reply | Private Reply | To 59 |
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To: frankm
Police spokesmen said they did not want to move in earlier as it would have put police
officers at risk.
This is unacceptable! They are supposed to take risks!! It's part of the job! Same thing
happened at Columbine!
187 Posted on 02/28/2001 09:52:30 PST by PasnThru [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top |
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To: Myers
Hey, have you ever heard of Britton or Aberdeen? I go there every April from Seattle. Very
interesting state - and a nice drive.
188 Posted on 02/28/2001 09:52:37 PST by RobRoy [ Reply | Private Reply | To 162 | Top |
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To: Huck
Amen. Well written.
189 Posted on 02/28/2001 09:52:49 PST by esoteric [ Reply | Private Reply | To 63 | Top |
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To: frankm
Richard J. Daley once said these words that sound like a prophecy: "The police aren't here
to create disorder, they're here to preserve disorder."
On the other hand, those of us who are so enlightened realize that this ritual is a
cultural issue, and who are we to judge another's culture?
190 Posted on 02/28/2001 09:53:02 PST by As I See It [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 |
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To: frankm
Here in Virginia, a concealed weapon permit extends to carrying edged weapons as well as
firearms.
A well wielded blade can be swift, silent and just as deadly as a gun in this
situation.
I would think a couple of sticks, slashes and stabs, would have changed any thug's mind
real quick.
We had a riot here in 1989, at "Greekfest", a black college gathering.
In fairness, it was run of the mill thugs and not the frat youths doing what thugs do
best.
The cops kicked a little ass and "greekfest" is a thing of the past here in Va.
Beach.
The Seattle PI link showed thugs, both white & black, thuggery knows no limits.
I would venture to say though that the citizens of Seattle are being screwed by the mayor
& the cops, imho.
191 Posted on 02/28/2001 09:53:59 PST by csvset [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top |
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To: Shethink13
To All... As an indvidual in the Law Enforcement field...Let me assure you that orders
came down from on "high" That they were not to intervene until things " got out of hand"
to not have a repeat of the negative press coverage, that came out after the WTO protests.
The same way that NYPD officers were given orders not to make a huge "visible presence"
during the Puerto Rican Day Parade here in NY..Lest they be accused of racism, by being
VERY visible at largely minority gatherings and less so at mostly caucausian attended
events. Dont blame the average street cop trying to do the job, without getting "jammed
up". Blame the politicians setting the rules.
192 Posted on 02/28/2001 09:54:51 PST by RIGHTWINGERINNY [ Reply | Private Reply | To 9 |
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To: frankm
Gee, I thought libs in Seattle only killed themselves.
193 Posted on 02/28/2001 09:55:38 PST by RaginCajun [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top |
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To: ICU812
"There are more than a few black FReepers and a couple of you just spit in their
faces."
Since when is freedom divisable by skin color?
194 Posted on 02/28/2001 09:57:00 PST by Justa [ Reply | Private Reply | To 170 | Top |
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To: Benson_Carter
Your photo shows a white boy dancing on a totally candy-a$$ed white boy car! No self
respecting gangsta would own such a piece of trash car. Why even low budget thugs would at
the very least replace the wheel covers from Wall Mart with some aluminum rims and tint
the windows. Your picture is just some drunk white trash that can't get his buddies to
open the door for him.
195 Posted on 02/28/2001 09:58:01 PST by scottiewottie [ Reply | Private Reply | To 53 |
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To: Billthedrill,frankm
In Seattle (firearms) carry is rare as most of the people downtown are flaming liberals
who view firearms as contagion. These people are food, and the predators were out in
force.
Exactly. But thousands of Seattle libs who saw this just got a cold bucket of reality
thrown in their faces last night, and may come around.
I think that in situations of ongoing live civil disturbances covered by local TV, it is
critical to get the VCR tapes rolling. Once these images go out live on TV, they are often
spiked and never seen again due to their "un-PC" nature. Certainly they will never be seen
on ABCNNBCBS unless there is a hue and cry. And probably not then.
(Imagine if the racial roles were reversed at an Alabama rock concert or auto race party.
It would be like Rodney King, televised in slow-mo 24-7 coast to coast.)
196 Posted on 02/28/2001 09:58:44 PST by Travis McGee [ Reply | Private Reply | To 157 |
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To: Benson_Carter
rascism runs rampant here. crime is crime regardless of race. crawl back into your own
hole and stop wasting my air.
Our government is racist. People like Peter Deutsch scream and yell about nonexistant
black disenfranchisement. Then he makes the racist statement saying that since the ballot
requires a 4th grade education to figure out, that makes it racist. Sure sounds like he is
the racist. The Congressional Black Caucus. I don't see a Congressional White Caucus.
Alcee Hastings said Colin Powell didnt represent black people because he was actually
qualified and not a token black. Racism is RAMPANT in our culture. But it is violently
and pathologically against whites. I think people here are trying to demonstrate how
outrageous this is.
197 Posted on 02/28/2001 09:59:22 PST by Godel [ Reply | Private Reply | To 101 | Top |
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To: Rippin
This is scary stuff. The Jesse Jackson's of the world are having a real impact. This is
Jesse's legacy.
I will bet you Jesse isn't going to weigh in on this one..... where is Jesse ?
198 Posted on 02/28/2001 10:00:12 PST by Great Dane [ Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | Top |
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To: Jabba the Tutt
Maybe Mr. Greenwell should walk on this side for a while..Work every holiday and different
shifts and then on days off go to court...I havent seen my sons in two weeks..I have to
work two jobs at two different PD's just to make ends meet..Get crap from your superiors
when you dont write enough paper or make enough collars, Get crap from the general public
and the media when you are too active..I love my job and am good at what I do..But when
you talk about this job..You really dont know what its like until you live it.
199 Posted on 02/28/2001 10:00:44 PST by RIGHTWINGERINNY [ Reply | Private Reply | To 24 |
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To: In God I trust
If it'll make you feel any better, I wrote the mayor of Seattle and asked him were his
outrage was about hate crimes committed in his city against the white community, pointing
out that if the races were reversed he would probably be on national TV basking in the
limelight the media provides for pc stories.....ugh.
It's time for elected leaders to deal with reality and get this situation corrected...
ignoring it or refusing to acknowledge the truth about it will only pave the way for more
and more violence.
We all just want the violence against one another to end...the problem here is bitterness
and hatred, not color. If blacks could look at things more clearly and truthfully, there
would be less resentment toward whites in general. Like the truth that they only represent
12% of all Americans and that the huge percentage of the remainder of Americans could care
less about their skin color and don't resent their culture at all.
Politicians don't do the blacks, nor any American a favor by always trying to divide the
cultures and hiding the truth of statics like percentages of crimes committed by such a
small segment of society. The TRUST will set us all free....let's start dealing with
it.
200 Posted on 02/28/2001 10:00:54 PST by 4truth [ Reply | Private Reply | To 133 | Top |
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To: Benson_Carter
I dont see that white kid beating anyone half to death. All I see is a stupid white kid
standing on a car. No big crime here. And I dont see a crowd of white folks gang beating
an minoritys half to death.
But I will tell you I have seen plenty of whites getting stomped half to death by roving
black gangs. Like the white young girl being kicked, stomped and punched mulitple times by
10 or 15 blacks. It appeared that all of her front teeth had been knocked out.
201 Posted on 02/28/2001 10:00:58 PST by Joe Hadenuf [ Reply | Private Reply | To 53 |
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To: Benson_Carter
just as my one photo doesn't tell the whole story, so can be said about the other single
photo posted by others. I was presenting another side to the situation.
Show me a group of whites beating and robbing a black man and you'll have the next media
coverstory and a push for more hate crimes.
Show me a group of blacks beating and robbing a white man and you'll have just another
slow newsday.
202 Posted on 02/28/2001 10:01:49 PST by Godel [ Reply | Private Reply | To 108 | Top |
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To: MissAmericanPie
A .45 wadcutter goes in and runs around inside. It doesn't come out, unless the target is
extremely thin.
203 Posted on 02/28/2001 10:02:37 PST by D Joyce [ Reply | Private Reply | To 176 | Top |
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To: Jay W
Police spokesmen said they did not want to move in earlier as it would have put police
officers at risk.
There was a time when that risk came with the job....... how things have changed.
204 Posted on 02/28/2001 10:02:47 PST by Great Dane [ Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | Top |
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To: frankm
Seattle is an extreme liberal communist bastion. THE EXACT SAME THING HAPPENED DURING WTO.
Not only will mayor Paul Schell NOT STEP DOWN (a la clintoon) and will probably be ELECTED
AGAIN!
I feel most sorry for the rank and file police members who are made to stand around
IMPOTENT and watch viloence. We have 2 people in CRITICAL condition in the hospital! 70
hurt! Last year this same party turned violent....so? THEY GAVE THEM THE OK TO HOLD IT
AGAIN! Same bad tactics by "city council" results in same violence. SHAMEFUL DISGUSTING IS
THIS THE USSR?
205 Posted on 02/28/2001 10:03:48 PST by Libertina [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top |
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To: Travis McGee
The caption with the picture said it's a guy, but it sure looks female to me. Whatever
sex, I know he/she MUST be in the hospital!
Another point ... 40 years ago at New Orleans Mardi Gras, blacks would strap razors to
their ankles and cut whites on their legs - just out of meaness. So all of this junk
doesn't surprise me at all. And people who are taking up for those black punks make me
ill.
I'm tired of being singled out by blacks because I am white. (You white MALES aren't the
ONLY ones!) Some punk teenage black stuck a gun in my face 3 years ago and took my purse.
I wasn't scared; I was MAD - and the anger doesn't go away very easy. And I - along with
other whites - was persecuted without mercy by a black superior on a job one time.
This mess can all be laid at the doorstep of Jessie Jackson and his ilk. I hope the big
bucks he has extorted are worth it.
It's gonna be a long haul for our African-American FReepers, columnists, and politicians
to unite our country. God bless all of you for your stength and commitment.
206 Posted on 02/28/2001 10:06:40 PST by JudyB1938 [ Reply | Private Reply | To 177 |
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To: Travis McGee
yes...i ought keep an empty tape available for those live news events that disappear into
the void...for those of us who watched it live, listening to the media cover it this
morning is bizarre...except for a few callers to talk shows, there is no mention of
race...
btw, the radio is now reporting that the mayor slept through the entire race riot...he's
awake now and is to make a "statement" in about an hour...
207 Posted on 02/28/2001 10:06:52 PST by frankm [ Reply | Private Reply | To 196 | Top |
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To: MissAmericanPie
We cannot depend on the cops to save us from a mob of sub-humans. That was what I referred
to. Maybe a Colt was the improper choice for this situation. I have just seen the
videotape and perhaps an MP-5 would have been more prudent to bring to this party.
208 Posted on 02/28/2001 10:07:08 PST by jsraggmann [ Reply | Private Reply | To 176 |
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To: Justa
Since when is freedom divisable by skin color?
What an obtuse comment. I'm hardly the one making race the issue here. When racists start
using events like this to spout their bilge somebody has to call them on it
.
209 Posted on 02/28/2001 10:08:34 PST by ICU812 [ Reply | Private Reply | To 194 | Top |
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To: frankm
Didn't the cops there break up a parade the other day with pepper spray and riot gear ?
210 Posted on 02/28/2001 10:09:52 PST by Leper Messiah [ Reply | Private Reply | To 3 |
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To: Rippin
I find this situation disgusting but this is not only jackson's legacy, it is our legacy,
too. For every black or group of blacks that had the s*&@ beat out of them during the
civil rights movement these young black "gangstas", feel they have a cause to make right.
At least it probably started that way, now it sounds like it is just a seasonal ritual.
Police could have stepped in at any time, they didn't step in very early during the riots
of the civil rights why would they step in now. They didn't become policemen to get hurt,
did they?
What goes around, comes around. And so the world goes.
211 Posted on 02/28/2001 10:12:54 PST by jonna [ Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | Top |
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To: Godel
Show me a group of blacks beating and robbing a white man and you'll have just another
slow newsday.
Or most probably, no news day at all.
212 Posted on 02/28/2001 10:13:08 PST by Mark17 [ Reply | Private Reply | To 202 | Top |
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To: frankm
When blacks beat up whites, it's considered a fight.
When whites beat up blacks, it's considered a hate crime.
Is this so hard to understand? *sarcasm*
213 Posted on 02/28/2001 10:13:36 PST by oldvike [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top |
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To: Travis McGee
Did you check out the link in post #68? It has a lot of the details, including:
Police said 72 people were treated at area hospitals, including two with "life-threatening
injuries," and 21 people were arrested.
214 Posted on 02/28/2001 10:14:34 PST by JudyB1938 [ Reply | Private Reply | To 160 |
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To: frankm
Whore nation.
215 Posted on 02/28/2001 10:15:30 PST by The Duke [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top |
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To: RetiredArmy
"One SPD officer called in and said they were prepared and ready, but were not allowed to
move in to action because of orders from higher up,..."
Thanks for posting this. (it puts the cops themselves in a slightly better light) Once
again, Burger King is taking applications. "higher up" should be putting one in. This
incident makes a good answer to those who say that we should get rid of privately owned
guns. Followed by KMA.
216 Posted on 02/28/2001 10:15:41 PST by freefly [ Reply | Private Reply | To 36 | Top |
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To: Benson_Carter
"...the truth remains that crime is crime regardless of the color of the criminals skin
and the color of the victims. The sooner we punish the criminals, and stop referring to
people as "hyphonated Americans", the better off we'll all be."
Finally, we can agree on something. Your previous comment that "racism runs rampant here"
is misplaced on this site as a huge majority of FReepers would agree whole-heartedly with
your comment above. The frustration of some of the posters is that the thugs getting away
with assault and battery are escaping justice on the basis that they hold some special
aggrieved status as a sanctioned victim class.
FReegards...MUD
217 Posted on 02/28/2001 10:15:52 PST by Mudboy Slim [ Reply | Private Reply | To 122 |
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To: frankm
Jezzzz I am glad I live in California. Thats some nasty race riots up there in Seattle
Washington and PA.
How about the one white girl getting punched and gang beat by black males. Whoooooo, scary
stuff.
218 Posted on 02/28/2001 10:15:56 PST by Joe Hadenuf [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 |
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To: Benson_Carter
Re your #53: Those are the seattle crips and the bloods. Can't you see they're wearing
make-up....chuckle!
219 Posted on 02/28/2001 10:18:38 PST by Truliberty [ Reply | Private Reply | To 53 |
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To: frankm
Sick stuff.
Well, I guess we just converted the victims to conservatism.
You know the saying "a conservative is a liberal who's been assaulted." Or something like
that.
220 Posted on 02/28/2001 10:19:37 PST by eleni121 [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top |
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To: biblewonk
"...people from big cities tell me it's that way all over."
They're right, bw. The more concentrated the population, the higher the crime rate,
including all major categories of violent crime (murder, non-negligent manslaughter,
aggravated assault, rape). Atlanta, Memphis, Nashville, Miami, Tampa, Orlando, St. Louis,
Detroit, Flint, Los Angeles, DC, etc. All of them.
221 Posted on 02/28/2001 10:20:00 PST by Bonaparte [ Reply | Private Reply | To 155 |
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To: frankm
>>and every black "gangsta" in seattle is watching those films today, listening to the
tales of those who participated, and understanding how much they will be allowed to beat
and rob decent white folks without fear of retaliation...
Maybe they learned this lesson from Alan Iverson? He and 16 of his young black male
friends attacked 4 white women with steel folding chairs in a bowling alley. It was caught
on videotape,and you could see Iverson beating on one of the women. One of the last acts
of Virginia's first black Governor (Doug Wilder) was to give Iverson a pardon and release
him from prison so he could play basketball.
Iverson has been caught a couple of times since then for illegally carrying a weapon and I
THINK for cocaine possession. He was allowed to pay fines and walk away.
Then again,part of this problem is due to too many whites "punking out". Look at that
photo. What you see are young black men beathing on a white female with their fists,while
young white men stand around and watch. The blacks who are doing things like this are
going to KEEP on doing things like this untill the coroners office has to start showing up
with cattle trucks to pick up the black bodies laying in the street.
222 Posted on 02/28/2001 10:21:40 PST by sneakypete [ Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | Top |
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To: RaginCajun
I talked about this in another thread today. I'm also from Lafayette and it really hacks
me off when I see this stuff blamed on Mardi Gras.
I can just about guaranty that most people at these so called Mardi Gras celebrations have
no idea what Mardi Gras is even about. They see pictures of New Orleans with drunk people
in the streets and think that's what its all about.
It's supposed to be the last celebration before Lent starts off. How you celebrate is up
to you, most of us do partake in consuming adult beverages and partying in the streets.
However, in all my years celebrating Mardi Gras in Lafayette, New Orleans, and Mamou, I
have never once felt like starting a riot. That's the same mentality that causes people to
riot after their pro sports team wins a championship. I'll never understand those yankees
and west coast people.
223 Posted on 02/28/2001 10:23:30 PST by BayouPatriot [ Reply | Private Reply | To 173 |
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To: Benson_Carter
Sorry, you are mistaken. Two different cars.
CAPTION: Fat Tuesday revelers pounce on a car attempting to leave the scene along Yesler
Way. Within seconds, all of the car's windows had been smashed. (February 28, 2001)---
Here you have a white man in his car that eventually gets all the windows smashed out.
CAPTION:Mark Bristol, a guitar and washboard player with the Seattle Cajun band File Gumbo,
returns to his wrecked car after Fat Tuesday. Bristol had parked at First and Yesler while
his band performed nearby. (February 28, 2001)--Here you have the overturned car in the
story, no occupants in the car, different owner, different wheel covers.
BUT both cars belonged to whites. Whites in both cases were the victims.
224 Posted on 02/28/2001 10:23:43 PST by scottiewottie [ Reply | Private Reply | To 89 |
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To: frankm
It's not a race crime untill jesse says so.
225 Posted on 02/28/2001 10:25:32 PST by ChadGore [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top |
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To: Jabba the Tutt
>>The seas were too choppy, they said, although Japanese fishermen tell reporters that the
seas weren�t even choppy enough to send water into their flimsy lifeboats.
This is total HorseHillary. Those "flimsy lifeboats" are damn near unsinkable,and are the
"all one-piece tent style" survival boats with doors that seal out water.
226 Posted on 02/28/2001 10:29:22 PST by sneakypete [ Reply | Private Reply | To 24 |
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To: sneakypete
i agree...if the white crowd had grabbed some rope and strung up a couple of these savages
on the spot, those black bodies dangling from lightposts would discourage further
incivility...
when the police refuse to protect decent white people from gangs of black savages, the
people have the right to take what steps are necessary to restore tranquility...
227 Posted on 02/28/2001 10:29:31 PST by frankm [ Reply | Private Reply | To 222 | Top |
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To: ICU812
See #165 My friend....History has a tendency to repeat itself. Just look at the last
president. Draft dodging "flower child" who grew up in that era. This IS our future! By no
means is this(165) a "racist" comment. Our future is what WE mold today. Looks quite dim
from here! I certainly hope it gets better.
228 Posted on 02/28/2001 10:31:25 PST by splint [ Reply | Private Reply | To 209 | Top |
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To: thurules
You are going to chalk this up as just youth & alcohol?
No, I never said that. I said that underaged drinking appears to have been A factor, and
that there are adults partly responsible for this being the case.
229 Posted on 02/28/2001 10:34:26 PST by Huck [ Reply | Private Reply | To 169 | Top |
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To: Huck, frankm
It's so easy to react negatively. It takes no effort or thought whatsoever. What is
difficult is to remain firm in your resolve to be a positive force for change in your
community, or in your country. What is difficult is to think creatively and give time to
pursue solutions to societal problems,such as youth violence or failing schools.
Hearing your suggestion, in this context sounds more like standing in the middle of the
railroad tracks, gazing with doe eyed optimism into the glare of the runaway train, hoping
to be a peaceful and positive force for changing its direction.
Your sentimentality is dangerously misplaced. I have had my share of altercations with
thugs like these and I can tell you, your sympathy and your hope for a passive solution
are squandered.
Pay attention! They beat women. They Savagely pummelled woman. They beat them with fists
and bottles and boards and in your cowardice you urge a fools hope for a "peaceful and
positive force" for change. Your sentiments weaken everyone that would stand up against
this brutality and I'm amazed that you would try to disrupt the rightous anger that acts
like this one invoke.
The only peaceful and positive force that these thugs respect is the grave.
230 Posted on 02/28/2001 10:34:45 PST by Lucid_Snap [ Reply | Private Reply | To 63 |
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To: splint
Our leaders in 20 years...this reminds me of the student rioters against the Vietnam War
in the 60's and 70's who in my opinion were far worse than what we have here. In addition
to the violence they caused they were traitors to boot.
And they did become leaders...Slick, his hoe, and the rest of that commie gang in the
Democratic party
231 Posted on 02/28/2001 10:35:36 PST by eleni121 [ Reply | Private Reply | To 165 | Top |
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To: Travis McGee
These things don't happen in the south...WHY because the Rebel Flag loving Rednecks
consider it in poor taste. Gangs are just a collective group of bullies.
When it becomes dangerous to racially attack Whites, like in the south, then violence like
this will subside.
Had this happened in Dallas, LittleRock, or any other Southern City, the NEXT DAY they'd
have been serious reprocussions.
Violence exists... where its ALLOWED to exist.
Yes, violence against any ethnic group is intolerable. In the South, no one is targeted
today...Maybe there is a lesson here, Maybe its because we have a faction in our society
of the good ole boys who are really bad to the bone, and just waiting for this type of
stupidity...I don't know, but there is a deterant down here !
232 Posted on 02/28/2001 10:35:51 PST by Thorn11cav [ Reply | Private Reply | To 196 |
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To: AppyPappy
>>Don't forget that the anarchists have repeatedly rioted and they were ....tada... mostly
white.
Ok,so how many minority women did that rat pack and stomp into the ground?
>>I guess that doesn't count.
No,it doesn't. There is no comparing property damage to physical assault by a
gang.
233 Posted on 02/28/2001 10:37:32 PST by sneakypete [ Reply | Private Reply | To 48 |
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