Islam: the Other Jewed Religion
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It has been mentioned here at VNN that Christianity is, at its core, a Jewish religion (via being rooted in the Jewish-written Old Testament). But what about Islam?
Islam originated from the Old Testament as well. Islam’s important prophets, e.g., Abraham, can be found in that book. Both Islam and Judaism spring from Abraham: his son Ishmael is called the “father” of the Arabs, while Abraham’s other son, Isaac, is called the “father” of the Jews. So, from very early in history, Islam had Jewish roots via the Old Testament [1][2][3][4].
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[1] it’s hard to know which things in the Bible were real and which weren’t; some of the characters in it did exist, but many didn’t. Some of the characters in it were a mixture of real people
[2] According to Muslims, Adam, Noah and Abraham were the first three prominent prophets of Islam. This was long before Mohammed officially founded Islam circa 620 AD
[3] from a Wikipedia page titled “Prophets in Islam”: “The Quran itself calls Islam the ‘religion of Abraham'”
[4] “In Muslim belief, every prophet preached Islam. The beliefs of charity, prayer, pilgrimage, worship of God and fasting are believed to have been taught by every prophet who has ever lived.” — ibid
17 February, 2015 at 7:32 pm
I think Islam, Xianity and Judaism can all trace their origins to Zoroastrianism, which may have first appeared around 1200 BCE. The Prophet Mohammed is a fictional character, like Jesus, Buddha and Moses. At any rate Semitic religions/cults are bad news for the White man.
17 February, 2015 at 9:17 pm
“Without Christianity, we should not have had Islam.” AH
My journalism teacher held up a pencil and ask the class, how much can we say about this pencil? The correct answer is that we can talk indefinitely about the pencil. That can be said of Christianity which is a loose, mixed, sprawling collection of books that gives the con man unlimited conversation before passing the plate.
Hinduism, Buddhism and paganism never waged war on others with respect to their belief system, so far as I know. It’s the warlike, megalomaniac Semitic religions that demand bloodshed.
18 February, 2015 at 12:37 pm
Didn’t Nietzsche say that Buddhism was the least harmful of the Eastern
religions?
I like to say that Izzies ‘n’ Crispies are all crypto Ewes, with the rituals and images for each cult tailored to the population they are meant to control. As I told one little smart-ass chersen pipple I worked with once, modern ChristCults are Ewedaism with the teeth pulled out. I’m up to here with psuedo-intellectuals with a big God Hole making the argument that there’d have been no classical Europe without Crispianity..No, unfettered by M.E. dervish mind control, and they of the Number 6 that started it all, the pagans would have colonized the world (once more?) and would had few if any altruistic inclinations to include “the other” within it.
No Moslem invasions, no Crusaders slaughtering their own..”Imagine there’s no Heaven..it’s easy if you try”
Like my rotten old kraut Grandad used to say, Mom Nature invented the Ewes to keep the rest of humanity under her thumb. Makes as much sense as anything else one could say about our situation today.
Song for the approaching Golden Age https://vimeo.com/39945352
18 February, 2015 at 3:43 pm
A little digression here but why/how did Martin Luther dislike jews so much yet still lead the reformation?
18 February, 2015 at 5:06 pm
That’s a very good question, Shane. How did Martin Luther become so Jew-wise in 16th century Germany? And why didn’t he just toss Xianity out altogether instead of trying to reform it?
That song by Donovan is out of sight. I also like “Hurdy Gurdy Man” with Jeff Beck on guitar and “Wear Your Love Like Heaven”. I think Donovan dropped out of the commercial music scene because he couldn’t stand dealing with the all the Jews involved in that industry. Just a guess.
18 February, 2015 at 6:42 pm
Donovan has been playing the Faerie Fest circuit:
http://www.donovan.ie/en/2012/05/donovan-play-faerieworlds/
You would know that if you would quit your bangarooing a bit!
18 February, 2015 at 8:52 pm
Wasn’t Donovan married to Jewish woman?
Funny thing about “Hurdy Gurdy Man”..no one seems to be certain who played what on it. I normally take much of what I see on Wikipedia with the proverbial grain of salt, but I’d heard much of the conflicting info there about HGM in my pre-Internet days. First heard it riding back home from summer day camp, in a VW Microbus. With Ringo Starr’s face painted on the front of it.
But of course.. (g)
Donovan, a VW Bus and the long shadows of the oak trees in western Marin County. Twizzle, Twazzle, Twozzle, Twome. Time for this one to come home.
18 February, 2015 at 9:29 pm
Here’s New Age spokesman Steve Hillage’s take on Hurdy Gurdy Man with Todd Rundgren’s Utopia. Incredibly dense production from Todd (I’m a fan of his techniques..) but it gets out of the way for Steve’s solo, which years later still makes my ears wiggle.
Fuckin’ A, Man! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rel53-kxCI0&fmt=18
19 February, 2015 at 12:08 pm
Wasn’t Donovan married to Jewish woman?
No that was James Taylor.
19 February, 2015 at 3:06 pm
Was JT married to Carly Simon? That’s probably why he lost all the hair on top of his head.
19 February, 2015 at 8:28 pm
Yes,it was Carly Simon.
James lost his hair; Carly was cuckolded many times. She covered her horns with her hair.
Carrie Fisher:
You ask me if there’ll come a time
When I will grow tired of you
Never my love
Never my love
You wonder if this heart of mine
Will lose its design for you
Never my love
Never my love
20 February, 2015 at 11:46 am
Judaism is incomplete.
Islam is complete nonsense.
Only in Christ Jesus is found salvation.
20 February, 2015 at 11:54 am
Someone named Sri Sreggin Das wrote:
‘I think it is rather obvious that Jill Mustang and Big Jim Jesus are using kundalini energy to sustain their religious emotions.
What they are doing is going around au naturel, while still remaining chaste.
Regardless of what they say, this creates sexual tensions, longings and desires.
They then channel this energy into religious utterances and longings.”
NO, Mr. Das! It is Islam who uses sexual energy . . . for violence!
NO, Mr. Das! It is Islam who is saturated with porn magazines! Christian nudism is NOT porn!
NO, Mr. Das! It is Islam who cannot stand sexual tension!
But their is no sexual tension for the Christian! The Spirit of God pours His healing oils on those troubled waters!
20 February, 2015 at 12:38 pm
What’s with all the Freudian bull s**t in Christian conversation on this thread?
In the first half of the 1960s, ‘cruelty jokes’ were popular with White kids.
Do you know why god could walk on water…..because s**t floats.
Mother, I hate my brother’s guts…..shut-up kid and keep eatin’.
Mother, I’m tired of walking in a circle…..shut-up kid or I’ll nail the other foot to the floor.
20 February, 2015 at 3:11 pm
I think, and I hope, that after 700-1600 years of Christian-imposed confusion and tyranny the old gods, the gods of our ancestors, are starting to make their triumphant return.
Ave Iuppiter, rex deorum, Iuno et coniugi!
20 February, 2015 at 4:06 pm
I was the one who exposed Jill Mustang and Big Jim Jesus. I am still doing research on them. Who knows what else I will come up with.
These two nudist mugs have a habit of not paying their bills, I betcha.
20 February, 2015 at 4:08 pm
I am sure that their Jesus forgave their debts ! I would bet on it. How many tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands, in credit card have you not paid, Jill?
22 February, 2015 at 11:22 pm
The first half of these comments are brilliant and then the muddlers appear.