6 May, 2008
Jewish Debating Techniques #1
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7 May, 2008 at 12:50 am
The ahistorical idea that “nazi” is short for “national socialism” is based upon a superficial letter count comparison. As propaganda this idea is designed to appeal to the ignorant.
Fact: The slur “nazi” was chosen as a nickname for national socialists in southern Germany because it meant “a foolish, clumsy, or awkward person.”
Fact: The slur “nazi” was a slur employed by Soviet communists and Western social ‘democrats’ to avoid tarnishing the image of socialism.
Fact: The slur “nazi” was popularized by so-called German exiles (predominantly jews).
Fact: Our Europid and non-Europid enemies employ the slur “nazi” whenever the pejorative “racist,” “bigot,” “white trash,” etc., are insufficiently demeaning.
A “nazi” is anybody the establishment and its propagandists do not like.
From the Online Etymology Dictionary:
Nazi
1930, from Ger. Nazi, abbreviation of Ger. pronunciation of Nationalsozialist (based on earlier Ger. sozi, popular abbreviaton of “socialist”), from Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei “National Socialist German Workers’ Party,” led by Hitler from 1920. The 24th edition of Etymologisches Wörterbuch der deutschen Sprache (2002) says the word Nazi was favored in southern Germany (supposedly from c.1924) among opponents of National Socialism because the nickname Nazi (from the masc. proper name Ignatz, Ger. form of Ignatius) was used colloquially to mean “a foolish person, clumsy or awkward person.” Ignatz was a popular name in Catholic Austria, and according to one source in WWI Nazi was a generic name in the German Empire for the soldiers of Austria-Hungary. An older use of Nazi for national-sozial is attested in Ger. from 1903, but EWdS does not think it contributed to the word as applied to Hitler and his followers. The NSDAP for a time attempted to adopt the Nazi designation as what the Germans call a “despite-word,” but they gave this up, and the NSDAP is said to have generally avoided the term. Before 1930, party members had been called in Eng. National Socialists, which dates from 1923. The use of Nazi Germany, Nazi regime, etc., was popularized by German exiles abroad. From them, it spread into other languages, and eventually brought back to Germany, after the war. In the USSR, the terms national socialist and Nazi were said to have been forbidden after 1932, presumably to avoid any taint to the good word socialist. Soviet literature refers to fascists.
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=Nazi
*German exiles = Predominantly jews.
7 May, 2008 at 1:16 am
Thank you so much for the above very detailed explaination.
Sehr interresant!
(PS. I would change predominantly to overwhelmingly.)
7 May, 2008 at 7:54 am
Nazi Sozi was an abbreviation used by the Germans themselves to reduce having to spell it out. Goebbels used the word “Nazi” too, mocking the Reds.
The Communist jewish “debaters” also equate national socialist with fascist. Calling someone a “fascist” is a joke in itself as the Soviet Union was a lot more fascist than the Third Reich ever was.
Calling people “bad” names has been around since time began. However, the “technique” was definitely part of Communist training and was called “neutralize the opposition.” The way it works is simple. When an honest, righteous and patriotic man would speak up in opposition to the communists, they would simply say “Don’t listen to him! He’s a FILLINTHEBLANK!” And because they had already spent much time and effort vilifying the FILLINTHEBLANK term with their mass media, that person would be ignored by the mob and therefore “neutralized.”
7 May, 2008 at 8:56 am
Re: The nickname Nazi (from the masc. proper name Ignatz, Ger. form of Ignatius).
The following provides insight into why “nazi” was used generically within the German Empire in reference to the soldiers of Austria-Hungary, but colloquially among the jews to mean “a foolish person.”
From Wikipedia:
St. Ignatius is claimed to be the first known Christian writer to argue in favor of Christianity’s replacement of the Sabbath with the Lord’s Day:
“Be not seduced by strange doctrines nor by antiquated fables, which are profitless. For if even unto this day we live after the manner of Judaism, we avow that we have not received grace…. If then those who had walked in ancient practices attained unto newness of hope, no longer observing Sabbaths but fashioning their lives after the Lord’s day, on which our life also arose through Him and through His death which some men deny … how shall we be able to live apart from Him? … It is monstrous to talk of Jesus Christ and to practise Judaism. For Christianity did not believe in Judaism, but Judaism in Christianity” — Ignatius to the Magnesians 8:1, 9:1-2, 10:3, Lightfoot translation.
St. Ignatius was arrested [and] sentenced to die in the arena. The Roman authorities hoped to make an example of him and thus discourage Christianity from spreading, but his journey to Rome instead offered him the opportunity to meet with and teach Christians along his route, and he wrote six letters to the churches in the region and one to a fellow bishop.
St. Ignatius stressed the value of the Eucharist, calling it a “medicine of immortality” (Ignatius to the Ephesians 20:2). The very strong desire for bloody martyrdom in the arena, which Ignatius expresses rather graphically in places, may seem quite odd to the modern reader. An examination of his theology of soteriology shows that he regarded salvation as one being free from the powerful fear of death and thus to bravely face martyrdom.
Saint Ignatius’s most famous quote, however, comes from his letter to the Romans:
“I am writing to all the Churches and I enjoin all, that I am dying willingly for God’s sake, if only you do not prevent it. I beg you, do not do me an untimely kindness. Allow me to be eaten by the beasts, which are my way of reaching to God. I am God’s wheat, and I am to be ground by the teeth of wild beast, so that i may become the pure bread of Christ.” — Letter to the Romans
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignatius_of_Antioch
7 May, 2008 at 9:06 am
So, the seemingly plausible but completely ahistorical idea that “nazi” is short for “national socialism” is another jewish attempt to mask their hatred of the descendants of Western Christianity. Ain’t that cute?
7 May, 2008 at 10:20 am
http://www.counterpunch.org/roberts04292008.html
THE WAR IN IRAN MORPHS INTO THE IRAN WAR…
by PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS
7 May, 2008 at 11:58 am
Feral: Fascism was a response to communism. The Soviet Union wasn’t fascist.
7 May, 2008 at 1:08 pm
Feral writes: “Nazi Sozi was an abbreviation used by the Germans themselves to reduce having to spell it out. Goebbels used the word “Nazi” too, mocking the Reds.”
I’ve looked into this.
Austro-Hungarian soldiers of WWI were generically referred to as “nazis” by the citizenry because they were martyrs for the cause of the Christian German Empire and in almost the same sense that Ignatius of Antioch was elevated to sainthood due to his martyrdom for God.
The Christian-hating jews of the Empire thought St. Ignatius a fool. That is why they informally used the word “nazi” to represent a “clumsy, awkward, foolish person.”
For a very brief time some members of the NSDAP used the word “nazi” as an in-your-face despite-word to the jews, in a manner that is similar to me saying, “Yeah, I’m a racist. And your point is?” This tactic didn’t catch on.
The idea that “nazi-sozi” is a German abbreviation is a myth. It originates from a book entitled, “The Nazi-Sozi Questions and Answers” (or Der Nazi-Sozi by Dr. Jospeh Goebbels). This book is cited as “proof” by Jews, sycophants, and SPLC-financed neo-Nazi “organizations” that German National Socialists referred to themselves as Nazis.
The problem is the term “Nazi-Sozi” appears on the cover but never inside the book. Supposedly, the origin of the phrase on the cover “is not clear.” Yeah, wink wink. Yet Goebbels never used the term “nazi” or “nazi-sozi” within the text, or so it’s said (I’ve not read the book). Within the text he is said to have consistently described German National Socialists as National Socialists and Socialists.
Jews, thinking St. Ignatius and soldiers of the German Empire fools, used the word “nazi” to demean members of the NSDAP, then popularized the word in the west as a slur and pejorative. Ever since that time they’ve covered up their “contribution” by claiming that “nazi” is only shorthand for National Socialism invented by the German National Socialists themselves.
To this lie it’s time to say, “Bullshit!”
8 May, 2008 at 2:22 am
Rather than St. Ignatius of Antioch (who was born in AD50 and was a Roman martyr, long before Austria even existed), I would have assumed that the popularity of the name “Ignaz” (Ignatius) in the Austrian-ruled lands of Central Europe was due to St. Ignatius Loyola, the founder of the Jesuits. He and they were active in fighting the Protestant Reformation and in promoting the Counter-Reformation which restored those lands to Catholicism. This explanation would seem far more likely. It’s notable that the name is hardly found in Protestant areas and is virtually considered to be a Catholic name, just as William would be viewed as Protestant in Ireland. All for political/historical reasons.
8 May, 2008 at 7:51 am
Ein,
You may be partly right. Some say the Jesuit Ignatius Loyola, born Iñigo de Loyola in 1491 to a noble family in Spain, was a crypto-jew because he protected the jews of Rome by establishing houses for converted jews and Moors. If true, then why would the jews of south Germany consider him to be a “foolish” individual? His youthful disfigurement by cannon fire may account for the “clumsy” and “awkward” parts, but “foolish”? The latter would be a very ungrateful characterization of a (supposed) gentile benefactor.
I’ve read that “Ignaz” means “born of fire.” Only the martyr, St. Ignatius of Antioch, could be said to have been “born in the fires of martyrdom.” It’s understandable that real Germans would characterize the soldiers of Austro-Hungary as having been “born of fire.” It’s very unlikely that they considered their soldiers to be “clumsy, awkward, and foolish,” although one can see why the jews would consider the Christian martyr St. Ignatius of Antioch to be “foolish.”
“Ignaz” probably represents a merging of both individuals, with German Christians taking the positive view (born of fire) and jews taking the negative view (awkward, clumsy, and foolish).
10 May, 2008 at 5:28 pm
Primary jewish debating technique: make it against the law to argue against jews.
11 May, 2008 at 1:05 am
Here’s an example of the word “nazi” in use before Uncle Adolph and the NSDAP:
Ludwig Thoma (1867-1921), German author, publisher, editor, and anti-Semite. Thoma wrote the novel Der Schusternazi (The Nazi Shoemaker) in 1906. The story was turned into a movie called Der Arme Millionär (The Poor Millionaire) in 1939.
In the movie a shoemaker, Ignatz Stanglmayer, who receives a large inheritance and dumps his old friends in favor of new ones. The new friends have a piece of valuable Russian land for sale which they offer Ignatz for a friendship price
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0858390/
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0031053/
Apparently the anti-Semitic author, Thoma, pens Ignatz as a fool.
12 May, 2008 at 5:49 pm
The earliest source for the word “Nazi” is Wilhelm Busch’ 1872 anti-Jesuit cartoon, Pater Filuzius. The cartoon is satirical and the term “Inter-Nazi” does not refer to National Socialism. I think it means “Inter-Nationalist.” In the cartoon, both the Inter-Nazi and Jean Lecaq seem to be after gold (Geld).
Pater Luzi, finster blickend,
Heimlich schleichend um das Haus,
Wählt zu neuem Rachezwecke
Zwo verwegne Lumpen aus.–
Einer heißt der Inter-Nazi
Und der zweite Jean Lecaq,
Alle beide wohl zu brauchen,
Denn es mangelt Geld im Sack.
http://www.gutenberg.org/files/14340/14340-8.txt
http://www.payer.de/religionskritik/karikaturen4.htm
As stated previously, “Nazi” is a diminutive of Ignatz. It’s important to realize that many, many German and Austrian jews were named Ignatz. Before the Third Reich “Nazi” was likely a term of endearment among Yiddish-speaking jews. Among gentiles in south Germany and Austria the word could be an insult – context was very important. Wilhelm Busch used “Nazi” to mean “National” in 1872. The German author, Ludwig Thoma, used it to mean “fool” in 1906.
12 May, 2008 at 9:38 pm
These techniques are alive and well, and being used not only by “White Jewish Nationalists”(?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!) over at …
http://inverted-world.com/index.php/articles/articles/prospects_for_activism/
(The comments are KILLER!)
And I’M ready to FIGHT and DIE for the likes of THESE(No, NOT the “Jewish White Nationalists”!!!(?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!), but those Whites that accept them and their “logic”?!?!?!?!?!.
“We should start our own Caucasian Debate Team!”
I’m fucking infuriated.
WHITE POWER!
WHITE PRIDE!
WHITE REVOLUTION
WORLD-WIDE!!!
WOLF
14/88!!!