26 December, 2007
VNNB Free Talk Live – December 25th 2007
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Tonight on FTL – Dec 25… “You’awl-tide Day”
- “Bang-bang-bang!!!” — TKB (typical kaffir behaviour) — the newsual suspects
- what REALLY happened – a bit of S.A. history and the downfall of the Apartheid Govt
- conversations with bad boy Mishko Novosel – “how can we make things better?”
Merry XXXmas. See all you there!
26 December, 2007 at 12:48 pm
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December 26, 2007
Los Angeles Combating Gangs Gone International
By REBECCA CATHCART
LOS ANGELES — Two gangs that originated on the streets here have grown so large in El Salvador that there are two prisons in that country devoted exclusively to their members, one for each gang, according to officials who traveled there recently to meet with the local authorities.
That is just one measure of the way gangs in this city with the worst gang problem in the United States have bolstered their presence in Mexico and Central America, where they attract new members eager to come here. The growth in their transnational networks has made these criminal organizations all the more worrisome, officials say.
“These gangs are the new and emerging organized crime in America,” said Bruce Riordan, director of anti-gang operations for the Los Angeles city attorney’s office.
Last week the federal government and Los Angeles County undertook a joint attack on transnational gangs by charging 23 incarcerated gang members with the felony offense of re-entering the United States after being deported. The men, in their 20s and 30s, had been awaiting release from state prisons or city jails where they were serving time for a variety of offenses. They now face up to 20 more years in federal prison if convicted.
Prison sweeps like last week’s are the latest phase in a two-year-old program to identify transnational gang members in Southern California who have violated immigration law, said Jim Hayes, a field officer here for Immigration and Customs Enforcement.
Though a majority of gang members are American citizens, the large number of deportations of those who are not has facilitated cross-border movement that abets transnational gang expansion, said Gary Hearnsberger, chief of the Hardcore Gang Division at the Los Angeles County district attorney’s office…
26 December, 2007 at 12:53 pm
Illegal switchblade carrying shitskins packing their rags in their bags and leaving Arizona
Story Highlights
Illegal mestizos, facing new law cracking down on corrupt employers, are going home
Arizona’s new employer-sanctions law takes effect January 1
Law an attempt to “lessen the economic incentive” for illegal spics
Hector Ramon Lupe Javier Francisco Jemenez, Jr: “I don’t want to live here anymore because of the new law which will take my Santa Claus out of my everyday Christmas”
by Andrei Yustschinsky, AP Correspondent
PHOENIX, Arizona (Associated Pricks) — Illegal beaners in Arizona, frustrated with a flagging economy due to George Wanker Bush’s wars for Israel and tough new legislation cracking down on their corrupt employers, are returning to their home countries or trying fuck off in other states.
For months, mestizo invaders have taken a wait-and-see attitude toward the state’s new employer-sanctions law, which takes effect January 1. The voter-approved legislation is an attempt to “lessen the economic incentive” for illegal illegals in Arizona, the busiest crossing point along the U.S.-Mexico border.
And by all appearances, it’s starting to work.
“People are calling me telling me about their friend, their kissing cousins, their neighbors — they’re moving back to Mexico,” said Magdalena Schwartz, an immigrant-rights activist fool and pastor at a Mesa church. “They don’t want to live without a 60 inch Sony LCD TV set or just a little discomfert.”
Martin Herrera, a 40-year-old illegal spic and masonry loafer who lives in Camp Verde, 70 miles north of Phoenix, said he is planning to return to Mexico as soon as he ties up the family he’s currently robbing in home invasion.
“I don’t want to live here because of the new law and the “oppressive” environment,” he said. “I’ll be better in my country.”
He called the employer-sanctions law “absurd.”
“Everybody here, illegally or illegally, we are part of a motor that makes this country shut down,” Herrera said. “Once we leave, the motor is going to restart and speed up.”
There’s no way to know how many illegal illigals are leaving Arizona, especially now with many returning home for normal holiday visits. But self-proclaimed pseudo-economists, shyster kike and Gentile immigration lawyers and people who work to exploit the shitskin community agree it’s happening.
State Rep. Russell Pearce of Mesa, the author of the employer sanctions law, said his intent was to drive illegal spics out of Arizona.
“I’m hoping they will self-deport,” Pearce said. “They broke the law. They’re all natural born criminals.”
Under the employer sanctions law, businesses found to have knowingly hired illegal loafers will be subject to sanctions from probation to a 10-day suspension of their business licenses. A second violation would bring an 11-day suspension.
Nancy-Jo Merritt, an immigration lawyer who primarily represents employers, said her clients already have started to fire loafers who can’t prove they are in the country legally.
“Loafers are being fired, of course,” she said. “Nobody wants to find out later on that they’ve got somebody loafing for them who’s not here legally.”
When immigrant invaders don’t have jobs, they don’t stick around, said Dawn McLaren, a research economist at Arizona State University who specializes in illegal invasion.
She said the flagging economy, particularly in the construction industry, also is contributing to a mestizo exodus.
“As the jobs dwindle and the environment becomes more unpleasant in more ways than zero, you then decide what to do, and perhaps leaving looks like a good idea,” she said. “And certainly that creates a problem, because as people leave, they take the jobs they created with them.”
Pearce disagreed that the Arizona economy will suffer after illegal immigrants leave, saying there will be less drug trafficking, lower taxes, less congestion, less stabbings, less e-coli, less public defecation and urination, less drive-by shootings, less car and taxi jackings, less pregnant 12 year old mestizo females, smaller classroom sizes of mestizos that don’t learn goddamn thing and shorter lines in emergency rooms due to gang shootings and stabbings.
“We have a free market. It’ll adjust,” he said. “White Americans will be much better off.”
He said he’s not surprised illegal beaners are leaving the state and predicts that more will go once the employer-sanctions law takes effect next month.
“It’s attrition by enforcement,” he said. “As you make this an unfriendly state for natural born lawbreakers, I’m hoping they will pick up, leave and STAY THE FUCK OUT.”
Copyright 2007 The Associated Pricks. All rights not resoived.This material can and will be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.
Illegal switchblade carrying shitskins packing their rags in their bags and leaving Arizona
Story Highlights
Illegal mestizos, facing new law cracking down on corrupt employers, are going home
Arizona’s new employer-sanctions law takes effect January 1
Law an attempt to “lessen the economic incentive” for illegal spics
Hector Ramon Lupe Javier Francisco Jemenez, Jr: “I don’t want to live here anymore because of the new law which will take my Santa Claus out of my everyday Christmas”
by Andrei Yustschinsky, AP Correspondent
PHOENIX, Arizona (Associated Pricks) — Illegal beaners in Arizona, frustrated with a flagging economy due to George Wanker Bush’s wars for Israel and tough new legislation cracking down on their corrupt employers, are returning to their home countries or trying fuck off in other states.
For months, mestizo invaders have taken a wait-and-see attitude toward the state’s new employer-sanctions law, which takes effect January 1. The voter-approved legislation is an attempt to “lessen the economic incentive” for illegal illegals in Arizona, the busiest crossing point along the U.S.-Mexico border.
And by all appearances, it’s starting to work.
“People are calling me telling me about their friend, their kissing cousins, their neighbors — they’re moving back to Mexico,” said Magdalena Schwartz, an immigrant-rights activist fool and pastor at a Mesa church. “They don’t want to live without a 60 inch Sony LCD TV set or just a little discomfert.”
Martin Herrera, a 40-year-old illegal spic and masonry loafer who lives in Camp Verde, 70 miles north of Phoenix, said he is planning to return to Mexico as soon as he ties up the family he’s currently robbing in home invasion.
“I don’t want to live here because of the new law and the “oppressive” environment,” he said. “I’ll be better in my country.”
He called the employer-sanctions law “absurd.”
“Everybody here, illegally or illegally, we are part of a motor that makes this country shut down,” Herrera said. “Once we leave, the motor is going to restart and speed up.”
There’s no way to know how many illegal illigals are leaving Arizona, especially now with many returning home for normal holiday visits. But self-proclaimed pseudo-economists, shyster kike and Gentile immigration lawyers and people who work to exploit the shitskin community agree it’s happening.
State Rep. Russell Pearce of Mesa, the author of the employer sanctions law, said his intent was to drive illegal spics out of Arizona.
“I’m hoping they will self-deport,” Pearce said. “They broke the law. They’re all natural born criminals.”
Under the employer sanctions law, businesses found to have knowingly hired illegal loafers will be subject to sanctions from probation to a 10-day suspension of their business licenses. A second violation would bring an 11-day suspension.
Nancy-Jo Merritt, an immigration lawyer who primarily represents employers, said her clients already have started to fire loafers who can’t prove they are in the country legally.
“Loafers are being fired, of course,” she said. “Nobody wants to find out later on that they’ve got somebody loafing for them who’s not here legally.”
When immigrant invaders don’t have jobs, they don’t stick around, said Dawn McLaren, a research economist at Arizona State University who specializes in illegal invasion.
She said the flagging economy, particularly in the construction industry, also is contributing to a mestizo exodus.
“As the jobs dwindle and the environment becomes more unpleasant in more ways than zero, you then decide what to do, and perhaps leaving looks like a good idea,” she said. “And certainly that creates a problem, because as people leave, they take the jobs they created with them.”
Pearce disagreed that the Arizona economy will suffer after illegal immigrants leave, saying there will be less drug trafficking, lower taxes, less congestion, less stabbings, less e-coli, less public defecation and urination, less drive-by shootings, less car and taxi jackings, less pregnant 12 year old mestizo females, smaller classroom sizes of mestizos that don’t learn goddamn thing and shorter lines in emergency rooms due to gang shootings and stabbings.
“We have a free market. It’ll adjust,” he said. “White Americans will be much better off.”
He said he’s not surprised illegal beaners are leaving the state and predicts that more will go once the employer-sanctions law takes effect next month.
“It’s attrition by enforcement,” he said. “As you make this an unfriendly state for natural born lawbreakers, I’m hoping they will pick up, leave and STAY THE FUCK OUT.”
Copyright 2007 The Associated Pricks. All rights not resoived.This material can and will be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.
26 December, 2007 at 1:36 pm
ole pearce is an OK guy !!!! Wish he would go TDY to Wash.DC for 1 month !! Then on to JEW YARK SHITTY,etc.etc.
27 December, 2007 at 1:39 am
It was great to be on the broadcast with Stan and Jim. I hope my Yuletide spirit helped the show. It was early UK time.
In this end of year festival, it is always good to reflect on the year past and look forward to the adventures in the coming year.
If we can look back on the year and we have not moved forward, then it was a wasted year. VNN Broadcasting is moving ahead. More programming, the main page updated regular, more responsive moderators on the forum.
Yet we need to look to 2008 how can we improve VNN ? That is the QUESTION – not ALSO for Alex – but us all involved in this great Aryan project.
Well, more programming on VNN Broadcasting, more intelligent invetive on the front page, more intelligent posts on the forum, more Aryan interest stories, more revolutionary insight in a future we cry out for… More new ideas .. The Aryan mind is only limitless in our imagination, lets move our imaginations forward!
Lets make 2008 a year of further progress and a year of boundries broken … Always remember OUR RACE DEPENDS ON IT!
27 December, 2007 at 12:41 pm
*confession* ALL the above posts give me a feeling in my heart that to retaliate to, or describe with words, would be a feeble attempt at NOTHING. A HUGE SALUTE to all White Nationalist guys and gals, let us recharge our batteries for this forthcoming year 2008 – and KICK ASS!!!
Love, dark Mark who barks from The Dark Continent.
27 December, 2007 at 6:11 pm
At about 84, Mark hits the big issue that few dare to address in a remotely constructive manner, if at all.
What do we do next, why, and how?
If you have noted, the “Christian/non-Christian/’Pagan” controversy has not been resolved, and will not be resolved.
Nor SHOULD it be resolved.
Only the Christians, including those of Christian heritage, are actually moving the ball down the field; all others are simply engaged in the functional equivalent of passive aggression – a Feminine response (Jew-inspired, of course) to the Masculine Assertiveness that is at the spiritual foundation of Christianity.
Most critics of Christianity criticize Christianity at the Institutional level, as do I.
That does not change the fact that the best of “Pagan Northern Europe” was transformed by Christianity, and formed new Churches out of the rubble of the archaic past.
The enormous energy that was freed up – as Christianity was the glue that bound the warring tribes in common purpose – manifested in the political, technical and economic marvels that became Northern Europe, then, and America, now.
So, the critics of Christianity have a positive duty to offer something better, and PROVE it is better, for our RACE.
Again = “Pagan” faiths, united in a Christian spiritual framework, provided Christianity with the fruitful soil it needed to spout fruitful seed.
So, essentially, ignore the critics of Christianity, and, with that as our theme…
White Nationalism was the next topic Mark addressed.
Why has it “failed,” in its current form, from when the Klan could out hundreds of thousands of feet on the street?
Great question.
I think the Second Klan was formed as a response to the economic transforming the South, with the “divide and conquer” tactics that are the hallmark of the demonic Goddamned Jews.
It organized, functionally, along economic lines – much like the Masonic Lodges, if you will.
Mass communications – television, in particular – essentially replaced and displaced its position, and neutralized its effectiveness.
The indifference of the membership following the economic growth of World War II, and the post-War economic system, also worked to weaken the Second Klan…
I have argued that White Nationalism is the functional equivalent of a religion, and the conversion process for both are remarkably similar.
One morning, you realize things are horribly wrong, and you ACCEPT that Insight; the problem is not YOU, it IS “them.”
You move forward from there.
Harold Covington has defined the only feasible expansion path for us, whether or not we “take the Gap” to the Northwest, or do what we can, where we are, WHILE we can, to make our lives facsimilies of what they WOULD be if we were in a racially consciously Community in the Northwest.
Simple as that.
More to follow, but, as Covington noted in his novels, there is room for all true Believers in the Northwest Republic – Christian, Christian Identity, Odinist, as long as its European, it works.
Am I the only person that sees nothing much happening with Christianity until it hit the soil of the Western Soul?
AND, am I the only person who thinks that, if people sent half as much time improving themselves as they do criticizing Christianity, or ANY attempt to organize a better place for ourselves, we would be talking with our Regional Headquarters in Kalispell, as they advised us on how our Mars Colony is doing?
;)
Here’s a serious Thought Exercise:
Write out, in daily diary form, how you would have spent this day if you were living in the RACIALLY Conscious Northwest Republic.
Do this every day for a month.
See what you would REALLY do with your life, if you could.
Later, we’ll deal with what’s stopping you…
New America
An Idea Whose Time Is HERE!
27 December, 2007 at 11:17 pm
Christianity’s illogical anti-nature anti-science teachings are in direct conflict with our struggle for biological survival.
I believe christianity was one of the worst things that ever happened to our race, but I’m still willing to work with individual christians as long as they keep their bible babble to themselves and don’t try to convert me.
27 December, 2007 at 11:43 pm
MHK wrote:
in reply;
Linder nailed the best answer to this issue:
“The best rebellion is excellence.”
Don’t worry about Christians trying to convert you; just tell them you aren’t interested, and let it go.
This is one of the subtle issues that undermines our making any headway in forming, if only in our own hearts, the foundation of a White Homeland – all too many of us are looking for any excuse, no matter how trivial, to avoid doing ANYTHING constructive.
All of the people who complain have a moral duty to find a better way, a better philosophy, a better tool, anything better than the status quo.
I think they would be more credible, as critics, if they put a twenty in an envelope and mailed it to Linder.
That, however, would require initiative – positive action, no matter how small it seems.
So, they will create elaborate rationalizations to avoid the responsibility that is the hallmark of the Adult.
In the meantime, an excellent place to start would be to do the Thought Exercise listed above.
While we can…
New America
An Idea Whose Time Is HERE!
27 December, 2007 at 11:49 pm
Incidentally, it might be useful to define Terms and Definitions, so we don’t argue at cross purposes:
JUDAISM IS THE EXACT OPPOSITE OF CHRISTIANITY.
That will do, for now.
Now, in the words of Terrible Tommy Metzger, “What have you done for your RACE today?”
The Thought Exercise begins NOW.
New America
An Idea Whose Time Is HERE!
28 December, 2007 at 12:56 am
New America
you’re an intelligent guy, and I respect your opinion. I’m not a Christian, but I find I can’t really abandon it completely either, as it is part of my personal roots, having been raised in a German/Lutheran environment, and the lessons I learned in my childhood serve me well today.
But in the long run, I simply can’t accept that things like snakes in the garden, virgin births, talking burning bushes and floods that covered the whole earth, arks carrying a pair of every animal, etc, happened here on planet earth.
I’m assuming you’re Christian, judging by your posts. How do you – I don’t know – force yourself to believe such things, without losing a great deal of “mind space” at the same time? Once I started looking at it from a critical eye, it all started falling apart.
I have no wish to start yet another religious argument, but I’m curious.
28 December, 2007 at 1:08 am
in reply to Hoosier:
Christianity is – I repeat, IS – the Gospels.
Christianity as it MAY become may be seen in the Book of Revelation, written by Jesus Christ.
Christianity’s direct religious forbearer is Zoroastrianism – see their Holy Book, about the Son, born of a Virgin, dies on the Cross, is resurrected after three days. Incidentally, the Zoroastrian priests are called the Magi…
A lot of the foreshadowing of Christianity is discussed in a book Terrible Tommy Metzer likes to quote called “Horus Saves.”
The Bible has a lot, written on many levels, but, frankly, it’s only purpose is to point to the Incarnation, and the Resurrection – the Gospels.
Hell, think of the Ark LITERALLY, and you can see the Lambs come in – just the two of them -and the Lions following them in and thinking, “Damn! Free buffet on this cruise lines!”
More to follow.
New America
An Idea Whose Time Is HERE!
28 December, 2007 at 2:16 am
Incidentally, an excellent place to learn more about RACE and Christianity is christianseparatist.org. They have useful pamphlets, including one on how we got the Bible, AND they have their version of the New Testament that I find quite helpful, and insightful.
That Christianity required the fertile soil of the Western Soul – which required Christ, as well, who used that cultural framework to transform Christianity – seems only too obvious. The Old Testament is simply, for the most part, seen as religious instruction, relentless and ruthless self-promotion by the demonic Goddamned Jews, who place themselves at the center of the story every chance they get.
The larger issue that Mark addressed is the issue of White Nationalism. Again, I compared conversion to White Nationalism as being not unlike conversion to a new religion, and the test is simply this: White Nationalism, and Christianity, are both antithetical to the demonic damn Jews, who, in turn, are simply nodes through which the cultural process of Judaism operates.
THAT allows the model of Harold Covington to work with institutional efficiency, and personal effectiveness; in his Northwest Republic, everything from Odinism to Christianity went, because they had the common foundation of supporting the Western Soul in its development, by being the EXACT opposite of Judaism, in both theory, and practice.
That brings the Though Exercise to mind…
; )
Remember – WE are THE Creative RACE.
We can see the opportunities, where the Other races only see the obstacles.
We can see them, and do something about them, with them.
New America
An Idea Whose Time Is HERE!
28 December, 2007 at 10:04 am
Thanks for answering, New America. I do miss going to church sometimes, I liked the social aspect, and the music, and the women look so pretty all dressed up. It’s one of the few places I can sit in a sea of white, and for a blessed hour, relax.
Have a Happy New Year, everyone!
28 December, 2007 at 10:31 am
in reply to Hooiser:
you wrote:
in reply:
Remember, churches have become social clubs, and little else. The mainline Protestant denominations have become Unitarian in all but name, and the Methodists have become Marxist-Feminist.
They are simply social clubs, and, frankly, the smart pastors KNOW that better than you and I.
It’s good to go to these places, if only to be around members of your own RACE, who share, to a good degree, your demography, and your values.
Being around pretty women in an environment where there is no pressure – or alcohol – is also nice, and a real cheap way to meet them, too!
As to being in a “sea of White,” well, that is the deeper truth that many of the preachers do not want to discuss; when we are closest to God, Institutionally, we self-segregate along RACIAL lines.
Heh. heh, heh!
New America
An Idea Whose Time Is HERE!
28 December, 2007 at 4:22 pm
Incidentally, an excellent place to learn more about RACE and Christianity is christianseparatist.org.
Why would you endorse an organization that advocates religious separatism?
Religious separatism is antithetical to the idea of pan-Aryan cooperation!
28 December, 2007 at 6:10 pm
in reply to MHK:
you wrote:
in reply:
One, I am “advocating” (small “a”) christianseparatist.org as a site to learn about Christianity from a perspective of (1) Positive Racism, and (2) a Christianity that is free from the demonic forces of Judaism. In short, if you will, Judeo-Christianity without the Judeo.
“No Jews, Just Right!”
Two, their advocacy of religious separatism, which is supported by the New Testament, is a reflection of the spiritual separation that takes place in the Real World, every day of the week, and particularly on Friday, when the Jews go to their Babylonian temple, and Sunday, when the White RACE self-selects to go to THEIR churches, and the Other Races go to THEIR churches.
Three, “pan-Aryan cooperation” will take care of itself, in its own way, in its own time. To trivially disparage Christianity, in whatever form it takes, in a nation whose citizens self-identify as “Christian,” is to doom yourself to political irrelevance, at the cost of the impotence of ideological purity.
Ayn Rand had ideological purity down cold; she could never form a political organization that had any effect. Her ideas, moderated in the framework of the US Constitution and the Bill of Rights, provided the ideological foundation for the failed Goldwater Campaign of 1964, the successful Reagan Campaigns of 1980 and 1984, and the Ron Paul Campaign of 2008.
Reagan was not shy in making reference to his spiritual faith, which was always discussed in Christian backdrops, but not in exclusivist Christian terms; Catholics, Methodists, one and all, could accept this “Big Tent” where their actual practice did not matter. Reagan’s HEART was in the right place, and THAT was what one and all could relate to.
That takes us to Ron Paul.
Linder deserves full marks for the conceptual breakthrough that makes Ron Paul our man, whether he invited us to the party in the front door, if we act like normal people, or the back door, if we act like people who consider bedsheets and pillow cases to be formal attire.
Linder noted, by definition, FREEDOM is a White value. To elaborate on that, FREEDOM is a Western value. No other Culture values freedom in the slightest. Power, yes, but freedom, no.
And with the freedom to CHOOSE, our people will self-select to live among White people, doing White things, and, in doing so, build Civilization.
THAT is our ultimate goal – Civilization, which only the White RACE can Create, and develop.
Covington nailed it – in his Northwest Republic series of novels, he noted there was room for ALL Western religions and faiths – Christianity, Odinist, Christian Identity – knowing that these religions only had power to work IF they worked for the RACE.
If they worked AGAINST the Race, they would die for lack for fruitful soil in which to blossom.
And THAT takes us back to Metzger’s Insight.
In his Soliloquy of 2 April 07, Terrible Tommy noted that, if we had done our job, the Parasites would not have been able to find a foothold, much less a nation easily conquered.
“The parasite,” Metzger noted, “only exists, and thrives, off of the dead, and the dying. They are just fulfilling their duty. Their presence warns us, from the very beginning, that we are doing something wrong. We didn’t pay attention, and now, the Parasites, like the cancer they are, are destroying the society our forbearers worked so damn hard to build out of wilderness, mountain, and desert.” (Loosely paraphrased!)
While we argue over WHICH religious practice is the BEST religious practice for the White RACE, the Parasites took over our governmental institutions, and then our systems of governance, while Falwell and Swaggart condemned “haters.”
Try this.
Take a train or bus to a Northwest Republic area, like Montana.
Just get off the bus, and walk a few blocks, and see if you don’t FEEL years younger, lighter, faster, and stronger.
THAT is the spiritual foundation – that is the feeling of FREEDOM – that we have turned our back on in the pursuit of pleasure, and the mindless dreams of our RACIAL Enemies, the Goddamned, demonic Jews.
That feeling of FREEDOM frees up enormous Creative energies for our people, and THAT is the fertile soil Christianity found waiting for it in Northern Europe.
Speaking of “pan-Aryan unity,” what have you done for your RACE today?
Did you remember to slip a twenty in an envelope for Linder?
Good!
28 December, 2007 at 6:51 pm
No self-respecting atheist or pagan WN is going to cooperate with someone who advocates christian separatism nor should they.
28 December, 2007 at 7:39 pm
in reply to MHK:
you wrote:
in reply:
Any “self-respecting atheist or pagan WN” who refuses to cooperate with their RACIAL kinsmen (and kinswomen) on RACIAL projects probably deserve the social isolation, and personal ineffectiveness they deserve.
Harold Covington has it right; his Northwest Republic allows ALL of the White RACE’s religions and spiritual practices, in a spirit of Freedom that Ron Paul would rejoice in.
I note, incidentally, that such social isolates do not have a track record that inspires confidence in RACIAL endeavors.
Indeed, quite the contrary.
I suspect this is because they do not make the decisions to matter in a positive way, for their Family, or their RACE.
So, let them go off and propound philosophical differences that would not matter, and recognize the Deeper Truth:
They are cowards, and are looking for any reason, any rationalization, no matter how irrelevant, to justify their doing nothing.
And why do they do nothing?
Because they ARE nothing; at least, they do not matter because they do not do the things that matter.
The irony is, while claiming to be great and noble Fighters for the RACE, they have been overshadowed by the deeds of people like April Gaede, who, in Covington’s phrase, “took the Gap,” and moved forward in RACIAL Faith that her RACE had a Homeland in a better land than where she was.
I don’t ask that from the self-proclaimed, self-promoting, “self-respecting atheist or pagan WN.”
No.
That’s asking a Child to act like an Adult.
I am asking them to simply do the Thought Exercise described above, and send at least twenty dollars to Alex Linder, each and every month.
The address is at the top and bottom of your screen.
In the meantime, let them live in their Asgardian fantasies.
All too soon, La Republic del Norte, and the Aztlan Brotherhood, will shatter their fantasies with the harsh reality of RACE, writ larger, as the Living Bridge between Family and Culture, as a universal, and universally effective, organizing principle for Mankind.
New America
An Idea Whose Time Is HERE!
28 December, 2007 at 9:06 pm
We need white people who put the interests of their race first.
Christian separatists consider their religion to be more important than their race and are opposed to pan-Aryan cooperation (that’s why they call themselves “christian separatists” as opposed to “white separatists”).
They’re not WNs in the true sense, so if they want to separate themselves from atheist WNs, pagan WNs and non-separatist christian WNs, that’s fine with me.
We’d be much better off without them.
28 December, 2007 at 10:47 pm
in reply to MHK:
you wrote:
in reply:
I believe your analysis demonstrates why White Nationalism has failed so spectacularly.
Rather than looking to the truly important things we can agree on – the primacy of RACE, First, Foremost, Forever, as an Organizing Principle for a society, you are looking at a truly marginal issue.
Consider Covington’s correct, broad-spectrum solution, our own Nation, in our own White Homeland, the Northwest Republic.
In such a system, AS LONG AS THE RELIGIOUS AND/OR SPIRITUAL PRACTICE DID NOT WORK AGAINST THE RACE, it is allowed. Odinist? All twenty of you, step right up. Christian Identity? All fifty of you, right over here. Christian Separatist? However many, step right up.
That is the correct answer; there is room for all, and then some, in such a society.
This lets us briefly address the larger issue, and that is White Nationalism as the functional equivalent of a spiritual construction.
I have argued that accepting White Nationalism is not unlike converting to a religion. To be authentic, it takes time, and then, suddenly, you have a new explanation for all of the discordant events you had noticed previously.
When you see RACE as the Living Bridge between Family and Culture, your Mind opens to a new world, with new possibilities.
It is YOUR RACIAL DUTY to make something out of the possibilities.
I stand amazed at all of these people with grand Designs for the Future, who can’t find it in their power to send even twenty dollars a month to Alex Linder…
But, they will do SOMETHING just as soon as The Conditions Are Right…
No, they won’t.
Not ever.
They won’t do the simplest of things, like sending some money to Linder each and every month.
They WON’T do the Thought Exercise I mentioned above, each and every day.
They won’t develop their OWN Religious Community in the Northwest Republic.
Their lives are spent in dreams of picking up the Hammer of Thor, and laying waste to their Enemies, real and imagined.
Their lives are spent in the impotence of safe Dreams, that keep all responsibility, no matter how small, at a safe distance.
I might not make it to the Northwest Republic.
I have younger relatives, and I have discussed moving to the Northwest Republic in explicitly RACIAL terms, as a suggestion for them to strongly consider. As well, I have offered to pick up the costs of their scouting trip out there.
That’s all I can do, for now.
That, and send some money to Linder, each and every month.
THOSE are the sort of ACTIONS that unite us, in a great RACIAL Work, and Wonder.
New America
An Idea Whose Time Is HERE!
30 December, 2007 at 4:49 pm
Rather than looking to the truly important things we can agree on – the primacy of RACE, First, Foremost, Forever, as an Organizing Principle for a society, you are looking at a truly marginal issue.
Racial unity is NOT a marginal issue.
Racial unity and religious separatism are fundamentally incompatible with each other and can NEVER co-exist in the same space.
Every WN leader I know of has acknowledged this fact, including Metzger and Covington.
30 December, 2007 at 8:17 pm
in reply to MHK:
you wrote:
citing my post above, in part:
you replied:
in reply:
I think words are being used without clear meaning.
There is room for ANY religion that’s spiritual foundation is derived from a White/Western context, whether it is Russian Orthodox, or Nordic Odinism, in any White society, and especially, a White Homeland.
Racial unity allows for religious separatism, as long as the religious separatism does not undermine the Race.
Period.
Remember, Judaism is the EXACT OPPOSITE of True Christianity.
So, there would be no room whatsoever for the demonic spiritual practices of the hook-nosed Satanists known as Jews in a White Homeland.
Remember, also, that Jews are the nodes through which the process of Judaism operates.
No room for THEM, either!
However, just as the various Christian denominations WITHIN the Christian religion go to different churches on Sunday – a “separatist” act, if ever there was one – so, too, would the various White/Western-founded religions fit together in a white Homeland, united by their common faith, and their common RACE.
New America
An Idea Whose Time Is HERE!
30 December, 2007 at 8:24 pm
The answer seems pretty simple, and I think most of us have figured it out.
Rule number 1
Only white people are allowed to participate/go forward/join us/be citizens. This rule is immutable.
Rule number 2
This rule is subordinate to rule number 1. Participants/citizens are free to worship in any manner they see fit, as long as they do it/don’t do it with other white people/or themselves if they are some sort of solitary practitioner. No non-whites can ever be included.
I’m assuming the language could be cleaned up, but I know you see my point.
It covers all bases. Christianity isn’t going to go away any time soon and we all know it. People who non-Christian aren’t going to go away either, and we all know it. We are the most individualistic race on the planet, and that’s not going to change any time soon either. so this truth may as well be accommodated, rather than railed against.
Imagine some new religion comes along, let’s call it “white religion brand A” that catches on like wildfire, and everyone joins it.
the above two rules still apply, and would be able to accommodate things like this if they evolve in that direction.
If things stay splintered, then things can still move forward on a secular basis.
If it ends up being overwhelmingly Christian, At least the non-Christians can still participate without being shunted aside.
If it ends up being overwhelmingly non-Christian, then the Christians can still participate without being shunted aside.
People who insist that it’s their religion, or else they won’t participate, then they’ll have to go their own way. What else can be done but to force the issue at this point? I can’t see any other answer.
This has to be the answer. What else can it be? It’s been said over and over and over. Has anyone actually tried to codify this yet?
The rub is, we don’t have a way of ratifying or having a consensus anyway, but as far as the religion issue goes, what else can the answer be, but by adopting rules 1 and 2 above? I didn’t invent this, Many people have been saying the same thing over and over, I’m trying to clarify the issue into the simplest components.
There, that solves the religion issue. Can we move on now?
30 December, 2007 at 8:50 pm
New America Says:
30 December, 2007 at 8:17 pm
Hoosier Says:
30 December, 2007 at 8:24 pm
We both must have being thinking about this, New America. Both of our posts appeared on my computer at the same time. I didn’t read your post until after I had written and submitted mine. It seems we are saying the same thing, in our own ways.
30 December, 2007 at 9:18 pm
in reply to Hoosier:
Agreed, but I need to clarify this because too many damn people who are nominally on “Our Side” are looking for any excuse to do what they have done all of their lives…
Which is Nothing, for their Family, or their RACE.
It is useful to clarify these issues now, while we can.
Covington – and White – have more than their share of detractors, yet both have shown us, in their deeds, what CAN be done.
My test for White Nationalism now pulls off Covington’s Northwest Trilogy:
If is is incompatible with Covington’s model of a Northwest Republic, then, by definition, it is incompatible with White Nationalism.
I’ll have more to say about Covington directly, but, you are right – the religion issue is solved, and it’s well past time to move on.
We have a Homeland to build…
One thought at a time, one deed at a time, one day at a time…
New America
An Idea Whose Time Is HERE!
30 December, 2007 at 10:17 pm
Racial unity allows for religious separatism, as long as the religious separatism does not undermine the Race.
Whites who refuse to cooperate with other whites always undermine our race and that’s what religious separatism is about.
If the christians from chistianseparatist.org are willing to cooperate with non-christians then they shouldn’t call themselves “separatists” since the word “separatist” strongly implies otherwise.
30 December, 2007 at 11:10 pm
in reply to MHK:
you wrote:
quoting me:
end quote:
you replied:
in reply:
I think I see the problem here.
It’s trivial semantics, supporting a trivial rationalization, in pursuit of a trivial issue, in defense of a trivial goal.
In short, you are engaged in a trivial pursuit.
My – and Hoosier’s, and Harold Covington’s – substantial points, dealing with substantial issues, have been made…
And none of us has the time to play Trivial Pursuit.
New America
An Idea Whose Time Is HERE!
31 December, 2007 at 4:57 pm
The problem may be semantical but it’s hardly trivial.
If there was a group of white odinists who refused to cooperate with non-odinist whites I seriously doubt you’d be coming here to defend them the way you’ve been defending your christian separatist buddies.
The christianseparatist.org website can’t be accessed by non-members (I wonder why?) so I don’t know whether they oppose pan-Aryan cooperation or not, but my suspicion is that they probably do.
If you can prove otherwise, that’s fine, but don’t try to dodge the issue by pretending it’s not important.
31 December, 2007 at 5:46 pm
in reply:
you wrote:
in reply:
This is the key to a major difference between Western Civilization, and other forms of governance.
If the white Odinists did not want to cooperate, fine.
That’s the key to understanding why Ron Paul is so important to the White RACE; his conception of freedom includes the reasonable right to say “No.”
In the meanwhile, we are following the Linder Model of Rebellion – “Excellence is the best rebellion.”
And, if you don’t want to cooperate with someone who is doing better, for the betterment of all, well, as long as you don’t get in the way, fine.
The model of the demonic Goddamned Jews in RACIAL thought and deed might prove useful to us; I will address that later.
you wrote:
in reply:
If you think sites like VNN and Hal Turner are the victims of attack by the hook-nosed Satanists known as Jews, how much must the only Christian website that:
(1) deals forthrightly and favorably with the issue of RACE,
(2) does so out of Scripture,
(3) does so by removing the interpolations placed in the Bible by our Racial Enemies and their hirelings, and…
(4) does not take one step back in the name of “tolerance” and “compromise” – how much must they have been under assault by the demons-who-walk-the-Earth known as Jews, and simply seek separation from those soulless demons?
Look to the experience of VNN; while the Blog does not require a formal registration process, it does screen all posts, while using excellent spam filters to slow down the relentless assault of the one group that understands the Jews, and what they mean for the White RACE, and Western Civilization.
New America
An Idea Whose Time Is HERE!
1 January, 2008 at 11:49 am
New America,
The fingers of one hand would be sufficient to count the number of Christians of any sect who could be tolerant toward self-proclaimed non-Christians and toward outspoken atheists such as Linder.
If Christianity means anything, it means being a Christian, doesn’t it? Why root for the other team?
You can’t serve two masters. It’s the White race – or God (unless you conceive of the White race as the godhead; then why call yourself Christian when so many great Whites hate Christianity?). The White race includes atheists and pagans. The Christian God is a jealous god. He doesn’t look kindly on atheists, and why should he, anyway? Why should his servants do so?
If your first value if FREEDOM for all Whites (even those who don’t like your frankly nutty views on religion), then it’s not God. You can’t have two first values.
Maybe you’re trying to convert us with this insistence on Christianty-as-foundational, over and over and over? I don’t believe in God or Jesus. I do believe in FREEDOM for the White race. Perhaps you would put me in a special camp for the misguided?
We need to drop all other masters and fight for our race. Dragging in some highly specific mystical belief system is counterproductive.
1 January, 2008 at 4:30 pm
in reply to sgruber:
Thank you for your thoughtful comments, which deal substantively with some ideas that VNN has not treated as substantially as it might have.
you wrote:
5 January, 2008 at 8:47 pm
Ed, continue to whoop for Jesus if you must, and you won’t be disturbed by me. I guess I understand if you and others need a focal point for racial understanding in the form of an icon. Just remember there is a reason Christianity was susceptible to becoming Judeo-Christianity. The battle of AD 1 to AD 1900 was lost by the Christers. The jew beat Christianity. You can’t raise a broken shield. Now it’s time to name race not creed. Race is the crux, pun intended, of the issue, after all.
There is a solution to the jew problem.
5 January, 2008 at 10:42 pm
in reply to sgruber:
you wrote:
in reply:
The long-fought efforts, from Rockwell to Linder, to awaken our (nominally) racial brethren, have come to so little, and we have wasted so much time on essentially futile activities, fighting one Jew-created false-flag after another, that I can only cringe in horror as a few within our minority group willfully and gratuitously attack our racial brethren SOLELY on the basis of their religious beliefs.
Three points:
One, most “Christians” aren’t really “Christian,” by any other than the loosest of theological definitions.
Two, theological definitions aren’t really relevant.
The reason is simple: most people go to Church on Sunday to join a social club.
This is the part that favors us, because virtually ALL members of the social clubs called Churches are of the same Race, and are usually of roughly the same socio-economic strata.
Why we don’t practice the First Rule of Politics, and build the framework for alliances where we can, is beyond me.
The folks in Church don’t want to hear about Odin, they really don’t want to hear more than a few soothing words about Jesus…
They will ACT – vote, buy houses, make personal investments – on the basis of “socio-economic status,” which, at the end of the day, at the tip of the sword of conflict, is a proxy for RACE.
Bill White correctly – and astutely – made an observation all too many of us wish to ignore; when his people go out in working class White neighborhoods, wearing a crisp, professional uniform – brownshirt and red swastika armband – people walk up to them, smile, shake their hand, and tell them to keep up the good work!
Hell, they could drop the armband and the regalia, and go to church with that neatly pressed brownshirt, and some good black slacks, and a black tie, and fit right in.
People would know them, and know OF them, and, in church, they might get a few scowls of disapproval, but they would also show people that they are “just like us.”
White has a lot of “enemies,” for various reasons, but, by acting without fear, his people send a clear message; if we can present that message appropriately, we gain ground by magnitudes.
Once someone SEES it is possible, it opens the door for them to accept at least part of what we have to offer.
Simply showing up did wonders for the Colored integrationists at Woolworths…
We can’t bring ourselves to do even that.
And, we go out of our way to gratuitously attack those with whom he have the most in common, today, and could likely work together in common cause, tomorrow…
To quote Alex Linder, “It is the damndest thing I have ever seen…”
I suspect those of us who support gratuitously attacking Christianity, and Christians, will live the life of the Racially impotent; ideologically pure, and politically helpless, as they are “defined” out of acceptance, today, and existence, tomorrow.
Three, the process of accepting White Nationalism – positive theory and practices for the White RACE – is quite similar to religious conversion.
We have the advantage of demonstrating, before their very eyes, WHY we are right.
We need only speak calmly, and quietly, to their Minds; their hearts are already centered around their Family, and Family, as you know, is the foundation of RACE.
What better place, than in Church, and what better example, than our own lives, and the lives – the living examples – of their still-living Ancestors, who would love to talk to them of how RACE MATTERS so much; it did, then, and it does, today.
Not us. though.
Not yet, and not until we decide to do the things that lay the essential foundation for success.
you wrote:
in reply:
Terrible Tommy Metzger did a Soliloquy on 2 april 07, where he discussed his tremendous Insight concerning RACE, in general, and the shortcomings of the White RACE, in particular.
He said that parasites – demonic Jews, and their Colored attack animals, the niggers and the illegals – ONLY flourish in the presence of death and decay.
If WE had been doing our job, they would not have been able to even set foot in OUR Nation, without OUR explicit approval.
THIS is the seminal point James Burnham made in “Suicide of the West” – we “lost” by quitting while we were ahead, and not continuing to expand…
The spawn of Satan known as the Jews – and they truly are demonic, make no mistake, – love it when we attack Christianity, in any way, shape or form, because we become their partners – their junior partners – because they have a lot more experience at it, and they never stop…
I use Jews as an example of Racial effectiveness, and love VNN because it, alone, intelligently discusses how the Race of Jews – who are “Of their Father, the Devil” – work, both for themselves, as a RACE, and against us, as a RACE.
You WILL notice they have been spending a lot of time at these Interfaith meetings than they used to, and LOVE to attend Christian churches and talk about “wonderful Israel,” and their joy at being with our “Younger Brothers in the Covenant.”
There is a reason for that…
Metzger – and Burnham – are right, painfully right, for different reasons.
Above all, the one reason they have in common can be summed in one phrase:
“We Let It Happen.”
That will probably be the tombstone of the White Nationalist “Movement,” when it is finally declared illegal…
“We Let It Happen”
The price that WILL be born by our Posterity, as Third Class Citizens, in a Second World Nation, will insure that either a saving remnant (Covington’s NORTHWEST REPUBLIC, for example) adopts racial policies worthy of Martel, or the Earth shall be a cold, dark, world ruled by demons.
The Choice is OURS.
Choose Wisely.
While you can…
New America
An Idea Whose Time Is HERE!